just to clear some stuff up here. my understanding is sven makes his tracks in a standalone sequencing package without the need for sample cd's. THAT's my understanding after one conversation with him three weeks ago. fair bloody play to him if this is the case.

i think what greg is saying is that he gets one loop from all types of sources sample cd's, the interent etc etc. he's found one particualr one whilst surfing, ie a loop from one of sven's tracks which he didn't realise was one of sven's track, stuck it in his hard drive and forgot about it. then he used it on a track of his without realising the need to change it. it came out and the shit hit the fan.

i reckon from what's been said here that greg and boris have learnt a big lesson from this. boris says he now uses recycle to chop up loops and greg has said he will never be getting his loops from the internet again. good. let's see what happens in the future.

but i think that a few of you haven't read the original situation properly here. to recap: sven had a go at skull tunes for taking a loop of his. which they did. which they've admit. if i'm right about the way sven produces, this would have been a totally original loop. fair play. he was right to have a go. now the situation is resolved. good.

but as far at the other tracks - the submissions sample etc etc.... it wasn't the other artists eg patrick and glenn etc that were making a fuss about this. to the best of my knowledge, none of these artists who used these same 'clean' loops from sample cds have ever turned around and accused skull of nicking their loops. it was everyone else who came to the wrong conclusion!

it's just been a huge lesson in creativity. one which i hope we all take note of to improve the genre. :D