agreed with u scott.... more and more im realising the more shortcuts u take, the more your tune 'sounds' like shortcuts were taken...

stickin a delay on a off beat kick will fill the low end, but .......

any recommendations for a good subbass vst then? coz ive seen a few posted on this forum and none ever really done it 4 me...

i find it hard to program absynth or reaktor to get a good sub!, then again i could be just stupid