Vinyl is its days numbered?

**Willy_Wonka** · 24-07-2005, 01:03 PM

So what does everyone think - digital music has been around for probably almost a decade now - but has only really taken off in the last half of that. During that time we've seen hybrid technologies like Final Scratch rear their heads.

But will the next few years see the end of vinyl? I think so, the machinery needed to make it is expensive, the process and materials are expensive and as much are people are casting around as to how to distribute digital music, the cost savings are massive. One downside some people will say is quality, and I think there is a noticable quality difference between say vinyl and mp3 - but you don't have mix mp3s - there's various lossless compression formats out there.

I reckon vinyl might still be around in ten years, but it'll be specialist market. I think most people will be using laptops and or standalone digital music mixing systems. Anyone?

**Komplex** · 24-07-2005, 01:31 PM

The cool thing is we have more choice to do what we want now. Its no longer a monopoly. You can buy and play your vinyl or go all digital or combine both and go nuts.

**slavestudios** · 24-07-2005, 01:49 PM

personally, i'm glad ive let go of vinyl.

still love it for the tactileness of it... but 'you cant stop progress'

**Sunil** · 24-07-2005, 02:53 PM

They said it was on the way out when CDs came onto the market too. It'll be around in some shape or form alright, but like you said.. the appeal of digital music mixing set ups can only grow, particularly when mp3 is overtaken in quality as the commonly available and used digital format.

**Ritzi Lee** · 24-07-2005, 04:08 PM

somehow i have the feeling this is an old discussion.

**Sunil** · 24-07-2005, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Ritzi Lee

somehow i have the feeling this is an old discussion.

Somehow I think you're right!

**jon connor** · 24-07-2005, 04:19 PM

im sick of these posts but hummmmmmmmm! ive been dabling with final scratch latley and it kinda turned me on

still djaying the old way but in a new form , i no many of you on here prob use final scratch but this s.h.i.t is new to me but good fun. ;)

ok im off ive put me vote in, these post always rattle me coz i do love my vynyl they my treasure :love:

**RDR** · 25-07-2005, 08:37 AM

Was discussing this the other day with my mate.

Im no expert but i think its days are numbered. How can it be any other way? I dont like admitting it. I love vinyl, i love the smell of vinyl.

However it does have one major advantage over CD and MP3.

It cant be copied.

I'll go over to CD totally when we get decent vinyl emulation. Spinning platters that feel ,like vinyl, and i dont mean the toss that's currently on offer from major manufacturers.

**TechMouse** · 25-07-2005, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

It cant be copied.

Except for on to CD, presumably?

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

I'll go over to CD totally when we get decent vinyl emulation. Spinning platters that feel ,like vinyl, and i dont mean the toss that's currently on offer from major manufacturers.

Personally, I think the demand that CD players should behave exactly like vinyl is what's holding the technology back.

You don't see people asking for "real VHS emulation" when they buy a DVD player... they want the new features.

**Ritzi Lee** · 25-07-2005, 10:18 AM

**slavestudios** · 25-07-2005, 10:45 AM

well, i do like this digital thing where you dont have to worry about the actual vinyl cutting. bass freq's n all that.

and its easier to burn a new cd than get a new piece of vinyl.

i'm glad its changing. took me a while to get my head round the change, but i'm glad its coming.

vinyl WILL die. the vital by-product from oil processing that is needed for vinyl will not be finacially viable to sell to vinyl pressers by 2008/9, so if its not gonna be produced, its not gonna be played. or so i read in the Guardian some time ago.

thank you Mr Bush. you have secured the death of a medium

**dirty_bass** · 25-07-2005, 12:55 PM

All love slowly fades, while we refuse change.

**RDR** · 25-07-2005, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by TechMouse

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

It cant be copied.

Except for on to CD, presumably?

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

I'll go over to CD totally when we get decent vinyl emulation. Spinning platters that feel ,like vinyl, and i dont mean the toss that's currently on offer from major manufacturers.

Personally, I think the demand that CD players should behave exactly like vinyl is what's holding the technology back.

You don't see people asking for "real VHS emulation" when they buy a DVD player... they want the new features.

Except for on to CD - lordy! what a concept! I hadnt considered that...

You know what point i was making. Its the slowest way to copy somthing in the age we now live in., unless you can recommend a slower way?

**RDR** · 25-07-2005, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

All love slowly fades, while we refuse change.

You feeling a bit EMO today steve?

**TechMouse** · 25-07-2005, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

Its the slowest way to copy somthing in the age we now live in., unless you can recommend a slower way?

Meticulously re-creating the music sound for sound.

**Jay Pace** · 25-07-2005, 02:06 PM

Much as I love Vinyl it is expensive, fragile and space consuming.

Nothing more annoying than paying well over the odds for something rare and deleted only to get it scratched.

I suspect the main drive will be when shops stop supporting it as a format.
Prices will rise, and legitimate digital media will be made available for less. There will always be a market for vinyl, but it will be a niche market.

All the technology is all here, but there isn't a business model to take advantage of it. Producers and labels can pretty much eradicate production and distribution costs. Look at the success of itunes, napster and all the other legit download sites. Imagine your favourite label having a portal where you can buy there entire back catalogue and all their new releases for a price you think is fair.

Piracy tends to thrive is where the consumer perceives that goods and services are not convenient and price is out of whack

Plus...

I love the idea of being able to dj anywhere, and only needing to take a laptop with me.

Beats lugging heavy great big boxes of records round muddy fields at ungodly hours in the morning.

**AcidTrash** · 25-07-2005, 05:44 PM

Personally I don't mind either way. However I am leaning more toward digital in my future considerations because there's bugger all choice in the record shops lately and I resent paying the better part of a tenner for only one track that I like. Mind you, the better I get at making music the more up my own arse I go so I'm going to end up playing mostly my own stuff more than anything and I can make my preferred sound with any technology if I set my mind to it. I think the sound quality debate is largely bollocks these days. I used to think that vinyl was king but I'm more concerned with what the music does than the media it's on.

**Komplex** · 26-07-2005, 01:10 AM

this is interesting, if anyone mentioned digital music/mp3's on this site a year ago, they would get slammed. whats going on?

g · 26-07-2005, 01:23 AM

bankruptcy, evolution.

**RDR** · 26-07-2005, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by TechMouse

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

Its the slowest way to copy somthing in the age we now live in., unless you can recommend a slower way?

Meticulously re-creating the music sound for sound.

Ahh good old MIDI files!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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