Quote Originally Posted by dirty_bass
Quote Originally Posted by Ritzi Lee
. So all the hard techno we're playing now are offsprings of the sound of Joey Beltram. Think about it....
Not so.
I`d think a lot of the hard sounds are down to some people having a rock, thrash or metal past.
Not even beginning to mention the industrial pioneers of the late 70`s and early 80`s
Plus punk for the scid techno lot etc.
Beltram has zero meaning to a lot of people I know who make hard techno, their sound comes out of the free party hardcore, that came from jungle et
i'm gonna have to agree with ritzi to a degree here...beltram (and belgian hardcore producers) were the first ones to inject "hard" into "techno." besides, jungle has its roots in breakbeat hardcore, which itself derives from belgian hardcore and joey beltram, so the roads still lead back to the man (and a small number of others). if someone is into hard techno and joey beltram means nothing to them, that just means they aren't aware of the music's history...

but that, of course, doesn't necessarily mean any of these people are directly influenced by beltram...only indirectly...

and i we are now successully on a tangent!

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