Quote Originally Posted by kai
While I agree with a great deal of what your saying there Geoff, just one thing I feel the need to take issue with - and that's that the involvement of Goodgreef is a good thing for the UK hardstyle scene. For me, the kind of crap hardstyle being put out by labels like Nukleuz and Goodgreef, produced by the likes of Cally & Juice and Alex Kidd, is just giving the music a bad reputation, and stopping people who would otherwise have shoen an interest in the quality stuff from Europe from ever gettign into hardstyle as they just regard it as being the shite being played by these guys. Personally I think far from being good for the development of hardstyle in the UK, the involvement of such parties in the scene is just leading to crappy cheesy hardstyle swampin the scene, and once that happens even if the scene does grow it is growing in the wrong direction - i.e. the path already well-trodden by hard house a few years ago!
Yeah totally agreed, when I mentioned Goodgreef I think it was more for Dark by Design who have been around for a while..... C&J and every time I see a post on GHF/Screamer about them from some fool saying how good they are I have to remind our European friends that they just arent representative of the UK HS Scene.

I think what I was saying is that when an organisation of their size starts to put HS nights on it can only gain the genre more exposure..... of course it goes without saying that they need to book the right DJs to do this ;) People might go to one of their nights, may even enjoy hearing the pap music but then do a little research for themselves (like this thread) and find out a whole better side to Hardstyle.