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    Default should local djs/producer aim for a local sound?

    i think riotsound had a point in the locked thread, even though i don't really agree with him...

    back in the day, detroit djs sounded like they were from detroit, new york from new york, berlin from berlin, london from london, etc.

    now some of that has disappeared, mostly because of how information flows and the ability we have to share so quickly and easily.

    so: should djs/producers try to represent a distinctly local sound or is that impossible, unlikely, or undesireable now, considering the global techno village we live in today?

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    I think Riotsound should just develop his own unique sound and let other NYC people copy him when/if needs be.
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    I do have my own sound... I dunno

    I can't believe 4 threads have come of this...LOL

    I guess I don't want to keep weighing in on the debate... But if you like check out www.RiotSound.com

    If you click on Music... my mixes are in the TECHNO section... DJ name = DESTRO .. dunno, there are actually a lot of good techno and house sets... almost all from the USA.. so maybe it would cool to check out... Maybe not..

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    let's not go down this damn new york riotsound root again, PLEASE!!!

    but good topic.

    i find the thought of going into the studio thinking 'shit, i must make music that sounds like I come from Leeds', ridiculous. That's simply not techno. You're constraining yourself before you even touch a keyboard. But I do think it is possible to be heavily influenced by a sound that's ppl play in your local area.

    The bottom line is that if you're an innovator, then you should be creating your own sound.

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    im into hard techno, if i played the local sound of blackpool id be playin scouse house and hard house which i dispiase.

    Thats why ive started my own techno nite in blackpool because no1 else offers anything different its all the same stuff which is highly boring!!!!

    i say play what u love!!

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    my own vision of techno was heavily influenced by living in the detroit area in the mid 1990s, and i do think some of the uniqueness of local scenes (like that one) has been lost. and for that i'm a bit sad.

    but generally speaking, i think the way techno has globalized has created an amazing set of possibilities and opportunities. i mean, cross-continental collaboration is possible for up-and-coming producers, not just for the big guys. a song can be written in luton influenced by detroit and slovenia that hits it big in melbourne and berlin...not that this wasn't possible before, it's just that now it's likely...
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    No Marc... you misunderstood me.. Kinda

    I would never go and think of "what sound to make"

    I just feel if you are true to yourself..

    You will reflect certain elements of your sorroundings... Not on purpose... but just naturally...

    A lot of Djs in NYC have a lot of different styles but there is some New york in all of them...

    But when I see a lot of people all going away from the NYC style at once... it just seems like everyone is kinda Tweeking their style to reflect something that they feel is going to benefit them...

    So its like you said... They are going into it with some preconceptions... of making music from lets say "Europe"...

    Not evryone... But more and more each day

    And yes... that is rediculous

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    This is a local thread for local people tubs!


    Im happy to play whatever, to have a local sound IMHO is a nonsense, it only leads to a blinkered approach, besides which we play the 'Game' in a worldwide arena.

    Local aint local anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARK EG
    but good topic.

    i find the thought of going into the studio thinking 'shit, i must make music that sounds like I come from Leeds', ridiculous. That's simply not techno. You're constraining yourself before you even touch a keyboard. But I do think it is possible to be heavily influenced by a sound that's ppl play in your local area.

    The bottom line is that if you're an innovator, then you should be creating your own sound.
    I 100% agree with this.....

    For me, when I play my music, I feel like a lot of different things influence me. I'm not going to play a certain style because I live in NYC and that is what people think I'm 'supposed' to play. I'm not even from NY originally-I grew up in Philadelphia.....so imagine all the great influences I had from there. I was also on a dance show back in my school days and was exposed to some of the early house tracks from Detroit and everywhere else....didnt think much of it at the time, but I look back and think-wow-this has definitely influenced me in some way. And before some of you go off on the hiphop in Philly tangent, YES-I admit that I too was listening to the early stages of hiphop. Did it inspire me to become a dj though? No. I've even been buying records since the mid 80s-mostly freestyle and early Detroit stuff-well before I even thought of djing or making music....some of those records I still play out after all these years. Just ask some of my friends and they will tell you what a crazy record collection I have. I started djing in college-right around the same time I discovered the rave scene....I thought the music was cool-and it was pretty new to me-I wanted to play it on my radio show because I wanted to do something DIFFERENT than others at my college station-no one else was doing what I did there. I wanted to be a leader-not a follower. My point is, I'm constantly being reinspired and influenced-I love all kinds of music-no matter where it comes from. I go to Detroit every year for the festival because it is a source of inspiration for me-and travel to other places whenever I can for the same reason. Am I proud of who I am and where I come from? Sure! Would I ever pigeonhole myself to one specific thing type of music or 'sound' because geographically that's what I'm 'supposed to' sound like? No- because that is just stupid. Expect the unexpected ;)

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    Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the law, love under will.

    There's a bunch of different ways that can be read. But, most are healthy when applying it to musical expression.
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    Satanist :lol:

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    ;)
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    Hmm, when I dj I do play more of a latin Flavor here in AZ. Because there is a larger latin presence of people here where I live. But I don't let that affect my production works really, because that's not what I'm into.

    I still say just make what you like no matter where you are from. Gotta do what your insides and the voices tell you to do

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    I guess the bottom line is:

    IF you are true to you it doesn't matter what sound comes out

    I think the problem comes about when people do not stay true..

    Its not just in Techno...

    In rap a lot of rappers employ cheezy subjectmatter and talk about superficial and material things...becasue they have the impression that is what is going to "sell"... In many cases it does... But the music they make still sucks...

    I dunno... When people stay true the "STYLES" kinda form on their own without anyone consiously trying to do it...

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    I don't agree with you RiotSound.
    I think your debate has more of a prevelance to hip hop and separation of regional sounds. I don't think it sound be brought into techno based on the facts that techno is just such a universal genre. If that was the case Samuel L. Sessions wouldn't be making damn good latin tinged techno. I know it's an example but I am sure you get my point. Regional sounds limit. And for as long as I can remember the best Nyc dj's were the ones who branched out from trying to stick to a localized sound and brought some diff flavor to the table.
    Trust me I remeber robbin' people at Nasa all the time and that's how I got into techno to begin with.
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    Gotta do what your insides and the voices tell you to do
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    Quote Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
    Trust me I remeber robbin' people at Nasa all the time and that's how I got into techno to begin with.
    :clap:

    now that's what i call old school! ;)
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    Rfc Cm Mob all day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
    Trust me I remeber robbin' people at Nasa all the time and that's how I got into techno to begin with.
    I didnt know you used to be a thug, Antonio

    Now that whole image of you as a teddy bear has gone straight out the window

    Just kidding.....:lol:

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    Im all for an intergalatic sound

 

 
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