How important is Adam Beyer to techno?

[dirty_bass]

I was inspired by Monte Cazzazza. SPK. TG. Ministry. Franz Treichler. Boyd Rice. Z`ev. A lot of early breakdance/hiphop/electro. Most of the early Cleopatra stuff. William Burroughs and Bryon Gysin
Arvo Part, Underworld, John Roome, Aphex, Robin Proper Shephard, Dan Zamani, the list is endless, I`m constantly inspired by music, always have and always will be, but not from any particular source.

[SlavikSvensk]

...and bob anal, of course...

[dirty_bass]

obviously
lets not forget bob flanagan too, he was an all american hero

[ds2]

I was inspired by Monte Cazzazza. SPK. TG. Ministry. Franz Treichler. Boyd Rice. Z`ev. A lot of early breakdance/hiphop/electro. Most of the early Cleopatra stuff. William Burroughs and Bryon Gysin
Arvo Part, Underworld, John Roome, Aphex, Robin Proper Shephard, Dan Zamani, the list is endless, I`m constantly inspired by music, always have and always will be, but not from any particular source.

since you're avoiding it like the plague i'll ask another way. if you're playing a techno set in a club/squat who's records are in your box ?

[dirty_bass]

I don`t mix very much any more.
But I guess, anything I like.
I don`t mix one sub sub sub genre.
I tend to play all sorts.
Just looking next to me here at a stack of records, there is Stoll, Seb Marx, Gecko, Mark Brom, Innigo Kennedy, Smoothraxx, Samuel Onervas, Ade Fenton, Jark Prongo, Surgeon, SLS, Zank, PWOG, Kode IV, Varela, Andreas Kauffelt, Luciano and Quenum, and I`ll stop now.
I play music I like and don`t devote myself to one artist.
Don`t see how relevant this is though.

[ds2]

devotion to one artist is bad. i certainly ain't devoted to mills if that's what you're getting at. not bought one of his records in about 2 years and last time i saw him spin i left half way through.

but with that list you've just proved exactly what i knew all along. ;)

[dirty_bass]

Which is what, that they are the records that are on the floor to the left of me?

[dirty_bass]

If you think you can make a judgment based on that then well done, you must be psychic.

[SlavikSvensk]

jark prongo is cool.

[eyes without a face]

Which is what, that they are the records that are on the floor to the left of me?

haha sorry but thats a good comeback :lol:

[ds2]

yeah hilarious comeback.

ok so you love inigo kennedy, sls, steve stoll and ade fenton yet you think the music of the guy who was a major influence on them is boring bleepy twoddle. :roll:

i mean ffs sam session made his name by copying the purpose maker back cat. inigo has stated in countless interviews over the years how mills was such an influence in his sound and is proud that millsy plays his records. steve stoll's always been a part of that hood, mills, beltram thing. you also say you have loads of surgeon tracks. well **** me, most of surgeon's early work could've been mistaken for mills and often was in the clubs...

sunil called you daft, well to say you like and play out the music of those above yet have never liked one single mills track is beyond daft.

no i'm not a mills devotee in anyway and have never bothered with these "is mills any good" type debates before. this one was different as it was all aobut one person purposely attempting to be controversial and trying to prove that "i'm different......man"

i've not bought a mills track in about 3 years and last time i went to see him spin i ended up in the backroom cos he was having one of those off nights he seems to be having more and more of these days.

[ds2]

can't believe i just fell for that but **** it, it gave me something to do last night while babysitting the chicken pox clan.

pub ====>

[dirty_bass]

can't believe i just fell for that but **** it, it gave me something to do last night while babysitting the chicken pox clan.

pub ====>

I`m not trying to prove anything man.
And I`m not trying to be controversial, I`m just saying how it is, as I always do, and you jumping around making accusations like some kid in a schoolyard.
The fact is I don`t like mills.
Can`t you get it.
I don`t care who influenced who, cos if you go down that sad path you can keep tracing back and tracing back till you reach the first caveman who hit a hollow log.

What you don`t understand is that I don`t like mills tracks. I don`t like any of the early surgeon stuff that sounds like mills tracks.
As for stoll, I don`t like much of his stuff, he is totally, 1 blinding track for every 10 boring twoddly ones.
Your making assumptions based on a little pile of records that were on the floor next to my chair.
How daft is that?


so once more for the deaf.

I
Don`t
Like
Mills
Music

He`s not crap, nor have I called him crap, I haven`t said his music is crap, or the people who like his music, or even his bloody axis beach shoes.
Yes he was an early techno person, and ws there at the beginning, and I acknowledge his importance to many people in techno, but in turn he was influenced as well, so what, big deal. Every time I look at my watch do I have to acccept and acknowldge the inventor of the quartz crystal timing unit
:dontevengothere:

[ds2]

I`m not trying to prove anything man.
And I`m not trying to be controversial,

yes you are, just like most posts you make are trying to be controversial.

I
Don`t
Like
Mills
Music

:

no, you just like music that sounds like his....

that's it for me with this one.
banging my head against a wall.

[dirty_bass]

I don`t try to be anything.
If you think I am trying to be controversial, then fantastic, a false opinion, great, give yourself a biscuit.
I guess I`ve smashed you world by not liking any mills tracks.
And none of the stuff I like sounds like mills.
HOW DO YOU KNOW
have you been secretly sneaking into my studio and listening to my record collection.
No
You make this assumption based on some names on some records, and you don`t even know the track names.
How misinformed is this?
I have plenty of mills stuff, and I just don`t like it, or any of the stuff that sounds like it, so just understand it.
It`s very simple.

[dirty_bass]

Lemme just check
Slice of life ep - steve stoll - nothing like mills
Jark Prongo - radio Show - Nothing like Mills
Seb Marx GW002 - Nothing Like Mills
Marco Lenzi - Who Cares 001 - Nothing Like Mills
Smoothraxx - Followed by the past - nothing like mills
drumbeaters - white night remixes - nothin glike mills
animal workshop remixes - nothin glike mills
Daze maxim - grown on a magnet - nothing like mills

Well chief, you really got me there.
All my records sound like mills.
I`m off to kill myself.

[ds2]

quite a selective list there considering your earlier post mentioned..

Mark Broom, Inigo Kennedy, Samuel Onervas, Ade Fenton, Surgeon, SLS, Zank,

i'd love to know which axis records it is you own that you hate so much too. surely if you bought them...

[loopdon]

ffs sake! i respect dirty_bass opinion a 100 %. if he doesn't like a mills track (mmh, i know where you are comng from), then that's it. why waffle around for hours???????

this is so stupid. just because someone says he has been influenced by mills, and i like this artist's stuff doesn't mean i have to like mills' tracks, do i? of course i could say i have been influenced by beyer, whoever, but do people listening to tracks of mine have to like beyer because of that????

and: influenced means influenced, not copied 1:1 or anything, i might have even been influenced by elvis, who knows... and... does it really matter??? would it matter if i was big in techno (whatever that is?)??

sorry, i'm drunk but this endless rambling here is really getting on my nerves at times.

mills def. has done a lot for the scene, i reckon, and it's a fact, but there's no denying he has gotten away with stuff (be it djing or producing) for which "newborn" producers would get torn to pieces and i am not only referring to older material.

[loopdon]

ffs sake! i respect dirty_bass opinion a 100 %. if he doesn't like a mills track (mmh, i know where you are comng from), then that's it. why waffle around for hours???????

this is so stupid. just because someone says he has been influenced by mills, and i like this artist's stuff doesn't mean i have to like mills' tracks, do i? of course i could say i have been influenced by beyer, whoever, but do people listening to tracks of mine have to like beyer because of that????

and: influenced means influenced, not copied 1:1 or anything, i might have even been influenced by elvis, who knows... and... does it really matter??? would it matter if i was big in techno (whatever that is?)??

sorry, i'm drunk but this endless rambling here is really getting on my nerves at times.

mills def. has done a lot for the scene, i reckon, and it's a fact, but there's no denying he has gotten away with stuff (be it djing or producing) for which "newborn" producers would get torn to pieces and i am not only referring to older material.

shall we get back to beyer the, after all??? ;) ;) ;)

[SlavikSvensk]

yeah, time to move on!

back to the non-confrontational subject of adam beyer ;)