How important is Adam Beyer to techno?

[SlavikSvensk]

I am open minded, and listen to loads and loads of music.
I simply don`t like much of the old techno heroes like mills or beltram.
And it`s not Daft. It`s not relevant to me. Does that make sense? it`s very simple..

makes perfect sense. you're very open minded until it comes to listening to any kind of techno that was made before you got into it a few years ago.

old techno = irrelevant ?????
very open minded.

hmm...well...saying you don't particularly care for some of the old heroes is one thing, and saying they are "irrelevant" to techno is another. but i'm pretty sure that dirtybass means is closer to the first than the second. i'm just basing that on past conversations and also what was said earlier in this thread about adam beyer. as in "i don't sit around listening to ballpark and reverting and get inspired by them to make my own music." i'm pretty sure he's not saying "jeff mills and joey beltram are irrelevant to where techno is today."

am i right, steve? wrong?

[dirty_bass]

Ok, l;et me simplify.
TO ME they are not irrelevant, how hard is it to understand that. they are not relevant to ME. It`s got nothing to do with being open minded. I understand how relevant they are to others. But they are not, to me.

I acknowledge that mills etc had an effect or whatever, so of course they are relevant in the history of techno.
And the fact I don`t like them has nothing to do with the fact they were before I got into techno.
I JUST DON`T LIKE THEIR MUSIC
Do you really want me to break down why I don`t like it?
I`ll get flamed even more if I do, so I`d rather not.
I`m not a fan of Beyer, but I still have some of his co productions with mull, which I think are ok, and a few of the tracks off of the drumcode album (the old one with the girders on the cover). I`m not a fan of Ben stiller, but I`ve seen a few films he`s in.
Aaaaanyway.
the point I was making, is that people were kinda jumping on the relevance of Beyer to techno as a whole, purely down to whether they liked his music or whatever. So it was an issue of taste. The fact is, is that he did make a big contribution, as did Mills.

Whether or not I like any of them and if they are relevant to me personally, really makes no odds does it?
Or have I failed as a techno person now because I don`t like some old dudes who made some stuff ages ago that I don`t like.

I tell you what, I really don`t like Beethoven either.
Am I even worse now?

[dan the acid man]

you've got to pay respect to these people, whether you like their music or not, plain and simple

[ds2]

I JUST DON`T LIKE THEIR MUSIC
Do you really want me to break down why I don`t like it?

yes, because..

You can be "negative" about stuff, but just explain yourself intelligently.
Saying.
Dude, that new ***** record, is wank innit.

Is just pointless

you made the rules....

[fitipaldi]

I JUST DON`T LIKE THEIR MUSIC
Do you really want me to break down why I don`t like it?

yes, because..

You can be "negative" about stuff, but just explain yourself intelligently.
Saying.
Dude, that new ***** record, is wank innit.

Is just pointless

you made the rules....

:lol:

[dirty_bass]

Saying I don`t like it, isn`t negative.

Saying it`s rubbish without explanation is.
Which I didn`t do.
I simply don`t like it.

I guess I did say I found mills stuff boring. Which I do.
I guess it`s the use of very similar sounds a lot of the time. Constant reliance on 909. And just, well, it doesn`t move me.
Production is fine though.

As for Beltram, I just don`t like the old sound he had.
It sounds too old and too simple. And his new stuff just annoys me as I really don`t like Disco Techno, that is very very loopy.

Satisfied?

[dirty_bass]

I can`t believe dummies are being spit over matters of taste.
I`ve got no problem with the oldies production, nor do I think they are crap.
Just don`t like em.

Hey, I don`t like Mars Volta, or Metallica. Anyone else wanna spit a dummy?

[SlavikSvensk]

you've got to pay respect to these people, whether you like their music or not, plain and simple

:clap: :clap: :clap:

...though i'm pretty sure we all are, on some level or another...

[SlavikSvensk]

...besides...when did this thread become another jeff mills argument?

[SlavikSvensk]

...i love it when we talk about jeff mills...

:bash: :bash: :bash:

[dirty_bass]

hehe, yeah, it has gone a bit off topic, and it`s not helping my caffeine withdrawel at all.

[SlavikSvensk]

...nor my combination of migraine and self-pity that i'm not in detroit for DEMF right now...

[SlavikSvensk]

...you should lock this thread so i can start a new one called "so the adam beyer thread got locked..."

:lol:

[SlavikSvensk]

woops! need sam for that one (forgot where i was, i did)...

[dan the acid man]

woops! need sam for that one (forgot where i was, i did)...

your starting to talk like your avatar now :lol:

[SlavikSvensk]

woops! need sam for that one (forgot where i was, i did)...

your starting to talk like your avatar now :lol:

:)

think of importance of jeff mills and adam beyer, i do

[dirty_bass]

Think of the importance of Bob Moog.
It`s all down to him

[ds2]

you still never answered my question though db.
mills, beltram and co are irrelevant to you, fair enough. so who is relevant? who inspired you?

[dan the acid man]

the force is strong in them :lol:

[SlavikSvensk]

you still never answered my question though db.
mills, beltram and co are irrelevant to you, fair enough. so who is relevant? who inspired you?

i kindly refer you back to page 4 of this thread.

there, you will find answers to many questions, including the origin of jeff mills...