the point of this never-dying-thread was not to provoke an adam beyer lovefest...influence can mean a lot of things. not all are good. the oil industry has a huge influence on all our lives, but how many people think that is a good thing?

saying adam beyer has been influential doesn't mean you love him and it doesn't even mean you need to like his music.

the people dissing him though offer the strongest argument that he has been influential...if he was insignificant, no one would care...