ikea techno

**Ritzi Lee** · 31-05-2005, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by Mirsha

and I still lamnet the fact some thieving bastard nicked 09 and 10 from me at a party four years ago.

Ouch!!! Those are the best from the whole collection....

**gunjack** · 31-05-2005, 04:09 PM

aha, the circle is complete lol. ikea techno DOES exist. :lol:

**gunjack** · 31-05-2005, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk

i have tons of drumcode records...and what i hear is several similar types of songs, not necessarily the same loops. with that evidence, i am more inclined to believe glenn, who has insider knowledge, than take the word of a couple people who do not.

dude why not trust your ears???? listen to those sample CDs and the speculation will be over! dude used alot o the same loops in code red and drumcode, i am just saying that while beyer may have had some rocking tunes, dude never really took any risks with the sounds, the audio content of his records... therefore the scope of "influence" is pretty narrow! its funny to see boxes and boxes of drumcode represses sitting around when i go to japan too, what is it with folks like beyer, andevern the detroit boys for example, who think that tokyo alone can generate sales of 3000 on represses that folks had 2 or 3 years before?! but i got mad respect for submerge selling more than 2000 CDRs(!) of underground mix CDs and albums etc. through japanese mail order! anyway back to the topic, beyer: ikea techno? or "influence" of "no kick techno trance essentials"? ;)

**gunjack** · 31-05-2005, 04:31 PM

man can we get a f*cking edit button on here for chrissake????????? also THIS BOARD SUCKS BRECAUSE: are we little children? cencorship is so dorky. F U C K: get over the concept of "virgin ears" you CUNTS because this board is as goody goody as NED F UCKING FLANDERS.

LIVE A LITTLE YOU GOODY GOODY "STALLWARTS"

**marginmaster** · 31-05-2005, 04:33 PM

i love you too gunny :love: :lol:

**SlavikSvensk** · 31-05-2005, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by deafmosaic

dude why not trust your ears???? listen to those sample CDs and the speculation will be over! dude used alot o the same loops in code red and drumcode, i am just saying that while beyer may have had some rocking tunes, dude never really took any risks with the sounds, the audio content of his records... therefore the scope of "influence" is pretty narrow!

i have, and what i hear is some similar sounding records on drumcode...not the same loop. but like i said, post some links and let people decide for themselves.

as for him never sounding different, i'm assuming, then, you've never heard conceiled project pattern 1-4 on svek or stocktown city on rotation or slang on loop...

**RDR** · 31-05-2005, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by deafmosaic

man can we get a f*cking edit button on here for chrissake????????? also THIS BOARD SUCKS BRECAUSE: are we little children? cencorship is so dorky. F U C K: get over the concept of "virgin ears" you CUNTS because this board is as goody goody as NED F UCKING FLANDERS.

LIVE A LITTLE YOU GOODY GOODY "STALLWARTS"

I never touched the virgins ears. which one of you bastards said i did????

As for this argument - who the hell cares? i like music that makes me dance, if it comes from sweden, then so be it. I actually like swedish meat balls too - simple but well produced and fun to consume.
Not exactly everyone's favourite food stuff, but it still rocks when you are hungry. Im sure there is some tripe come out of sweden, or other nordic countries, but when i heard it i didnt buy it. its like that argument about porn on TV, if you dont like it switch off.

-ve is definately not a +ve.

**SlavikSvensk** · 31-05-2005, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

I actually like swedish meat balls too - simple but well produced and fun to consume.

they are fantastic when done right...

**gunjack** · 31-05-2005, 06:52 PM

you know how to do sweedish meat BALLS right i bet. anyway, you must be deaf or have no ear for critical listening because those drumcode, code red records have LOTS of the same percussion loops in the beyer releases, maybe ask glenn for the number of that ear specialist.

as for posting links?! even i had the time, convincing you is not exactly the high point on my list of shit to do today, you already have somebody i don't even know telling you it's true and showing you exactly where to find the loops, dude even has "plugin don" under his name, what more do you want? if the integrity of your beloved idol is important enough to you to back him up so hard, why nor investigate the truth yourself?

that fool used sample CDs and obviously at that, and you kids are so blinded by a "swedish revolution" that you can't see the simple truth.

cari l. has done way more for techno than adam b. man, but hype don't lways equal innovation eh?

**loopdon** · 31-05-2005, 07:07 PM

after all, i think umek is the samplecdiest :lol: of them all. remember his voices of africa series, someone. ****, i almost cried :lol: when i got the sample cds of the same name. at least he didn't try to hide it.
in this german magazine, called raveline, they were always rambling on about iso-drumloops used by umek, long before i even knew what they ment. one record from sims i know has been not much more than a (pumped up) drumloop/percloop from a cd, too. i think it was techno t. essentials, too, or voices of africa, dunno. just couldn't believe it?!
i mean, not even trying to disguise it???

and, i know i have told this before, but i still find it amazing that chris liebing used the entire loops from a kit on techno trance essentials for his 'sunglasses at night mix' for tiga. i couldn't believe anybody could be so bland, but nevermind. i could go on for ever, but i think the point is clear.

and this entire ramble from me whas mainly about percloops which are pretty distinguishable, don't even want to know how many people resort to prefabbed (pure) kick loops and stuff.

but who else but us freaks would know, or even bother? :lol:

**SlavikSvensk** · 31-05-2005, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by deafmosaic

you know how to do sweedish meat BALLS right i bet. anyway, you must be deaf or have no ear for critical listening because those drumcode, code red records have LOTS of the same percussion loops in the beyer releases, maybe ask glenn for the number of that ear specialist.

as for posting links?! even i had the time, convincing you is not exactly the high point on my list of shit to do today, you already have somebody i don't even know telling you it's true and showing you exactly where to find the loops, dude even has "plugin don" under his name, what more do you want? if the integrity of your beloved idol is important enough to you to back him up so hard, why nor investigate the truth yourself?

that fool used sample CDs and obviously at that, and you kids are so blinded by a "swedish revolution" that you can't see the simple truth.

cari l. has done way more for techno than adam b. man, but hype don't lways equal innovation eh?

when did i idolize adam beyer? didn't i say, like 3 or 4 times, that i don't particularly like drumcode records?? that i think a lot of them sound too similar, and were cookie-cutter?? i guess you didn't have time to read those either. that's fine, but maybe you should next time before opening your mouth and flaming someone who just disagreed with you. maybe that bothers you? do you really think you are that important?

and do you really think this post is about innovation? it's about direction. i don't think mainstream techno today is innovative, and whatever your, my, or anyone else's opinions on adam beyer's records as music, i sort of see the drumcode records as at least partially responsible for that. does that seem like i'm f***ing idolizing him? maybe YOU should check the ear specialist, the one Glenn offered to YOU, and ask if they also offer courses on "reading for comprehension."

**SlavikSvensk** · 31-05-2005, 07:38 PM

yarg..."this post..." i am actually referring to the adam beyer post, not this one.

besides, man...i have never disrespected you or your music, and will continue not to...just treat me with respect back, aiight?

**eyes without a face** · 31-05-2005, 07:55 PM

i think the post has gone pretty much the way gunny wanted, caused a ruck, kicked up some shit about the Swede's thats didnt really need kicking up, and got to say his piece... so congrats....

and i thought i was being anal for my schranz bashing.... :roll: :lol:

**RDR** · 31-05-2005, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by eyes without a face

i thought i was being anal :

just for the record this had nothing to do with me and the virgins.

BTW - im treating this thread with the yawning contempt it deserves.

-ve is NOT +ve

why do people keep getting this confused

AS for the sample CD thing? **** it - i really dont give a ****. i have a vast library of samples, if you are a good enough producer you'll recognise what is useable and what is not, you'll also ahve the brains to warp what needs warping and leave well enough alone what doesnt.

Now if ya wanna argue about using things that have been premade - lets talk MIDI files, or generic riffs, or using ANYTHING at all from the past....

its pointless bitching about samples, it serves no purpose. congrats to those who use em properly, congrats to those who dont. if the music is good enough i really couldnt care less.

so poo.

;) ;)

**Stella Boy** · 31-05-2005, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

if the music is good enough i really couldnt care less

Ahmen !

**SlavikSvensk** · 31-05-2005, 08:10 PM

all right, all right. scott, you take the high road. i let myself get goaded...but maybe you were trying to do that and are laughing now, gunjack?

anyways, sorry i lost my cool...rough last couple of days...we'll just have to agree to disagree about the "influence" of adam beyer, or even what influence means, eh? ;)

**gunjack** · 31-05-2005, 08:50 PM

man, i am just saying, techno aint the end all and be all of everything you guys. lighten up, beyond the smoke and mirrors is just some kids making beats like the rest of us. eat your heroes.

**Mindful** · 31-05-2005, 08:53 PM

you should call your next E.P. Hero eater

**SlavikSvensk** · 31-05-2005, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by deafmosaic

man, i am just saying, techno aint the end all and be all of everything you guys. lighten up, beyond the smoke and mirrors is just some kids making beats like the rest of us. eat your heroes.

aiight...we good, then! :)

but, just to note, adam beyer ain't my hero. not even my favorite swedish producer. that's cari lekesbusch, because he's gone against the grain so often, and cause i think the mr. barth records were amazing...but i really don't like most of the h-productions records from 2000-2004, so...

...all my favorite producers have made some sh***y records at some point or another...

mainly

**SlavikSvensk** · 31-05-2005, 08:59 PM

uh...ignore the word "mainly."

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