NEWSFLASH ::::::: Chris McCormack giving up techno

[slavestudios]

[quote="perpetual"]no-one ever made ME buy a record. i bought what i liked. and if there was nothing i liked, i didnt buy.

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this was aimed at the general 'down on techno crowd' not pointedly at chris.


my bad :roll:

[SlavikSvensk]

come on guys i think everyones said their piece now surely? even i dont drag things out this long

he's made his choice, some agree, some havent, surely everyone has other things they can do than worry about someone who, for some, have never even heard his music, saw his face, read an interview etc... it beggars belief... dont get so het up about something you admit you dont care for... ive made that mistake myself many many times so i know what im talking about

take off the "techno" heads for a moment and just realise Chris is an actual person like the rest of us and is probably feeling very low and a bit surpressed at the moment, how about just wishing him good luck or at least leaving it be? we all know how one another feels about it now....

come on group hug, kiss, make up, go for a pint etc etc etc ;)

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[gunjack]

So it seems that to succeed you have to be 'up to the challenge' in a business sense, and to chase success - this is what I find sad about the whole thing.

man, sad or not, if you don't push your music and fight for your props, then dont throw a tantrum when nobody pays attention.

[slavestudios]

deaf, ive been up to the challenge since i picked up my dads 12 string at the age of eleven. in bands by 12..

now i'm hitting 32 soonish. 20 years. in many scenes. and ive had enuff of the battle. ive served my time & now i wish to do summat different with my live. to fight a different battle & try a different carrer. its my choice.

jus cos you dont choose to take the challenge, it doesnt mean you couldnt meet it.



i ran a club night at a loss for about 18 months out of love. ive worked for absolute gangsters jus to get my foot in the gig outta love. i ran a house night for mates out of love. ive played for free more times than i care to remember outta love. ive done posters & sound for mates gigs for free when they needed the support. ive filled in for djs & brought kit to ppl at the last minute. lent turntables & fx units & dj mixers & sat on the door for five hours at a dnb night i ran for mates & lost money...

all out of love.. or is it sheer blind stupidity



everyone is different. i repsect a lot of what you say, but the same way you were straight with chris, so others shall be onto you.

so... dont presume your the only one with a fight on your hands.



you have over 30 records out ? consider yourself very lucky.

some ppl only get one. and dont even get a ****in penny for it

[massplanck]

At the end of the day we'll STILL be able to hammer out all the :love: music he gave us.

If you are playing somewhere\anywhere\your mates bedroom\some massive club snorting coke of some hookers tits this weekend make sure to fill your set full of CmcC tunes.

That would be the best way to say thanks.


PS. I want a simple clappy smilie for the man from everybody lets make this another 20 pager. :lol:




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[SlavikSvensk]

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[Sunil]

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[Tiptoe]

can't believe some of the shit people talk on here these days really is sad. good luck chris and all the best. Shame you couldn't make a living from this but with every scene its always the cheese and easily accessable stuff that sells. Least you can say you stuck to your guns and never sold out. Darkside don't laugh but well regret not buying the last tune cos it has really grown on me so don't say i told you so!!! All the best Chris and good luck in the future

[Mirsha]

Well I'm hoping he's just pissed off with losing money and won't be giving up completely. I'm sure there are a shed load of people out there that should be willing to give him some dosh to make records for them to release as his stuff is rather fiendish.

Certainly some of the stuff he points out I've seen coming for a while, the sterilisation of techno as it becomes influenced by the mainstream and the punters become less discerning about whats played. But I've always said it never matters how much generic shit is put out there, the people who spend their lives devoted to techno learn how to split the wheat from the chaff. It's less about what other people are doing, **** 'em I say, and about finding your little niche which makes you happy. It's hard for me to think about the potential shitness which is eluded to in clubs sometimes by various people as I'm stuck up in Scotland where I'm not really seeing any of these issues coming into light but we're apparantly an exception.

In the end though people have to do what makes them happy whatever it is, since this is what Chris sees as being best for himself I wish him all the best in whatever he gets into next. You know he's going to be great at it from the dedication he's plowed into the fertile fields of the techno over the years. Chris has always been one of the biggest enigma's of techno to me, someone who can knock out these tracks which give you a good beasting yet doesn't DJ or do live PA's, something which is pretty much unheard of as almost all prolific producers are out there in clubs at the weekend nudging some 1210's or tweaking some knobs.

[MARKEG]

well i really think alot of you guys need to grow up.

or at least get involved in trying to make a living out of music.

perpet, i had to post this up - it's totally an issue for me and we needed to talk about it - BUT we didn't need to slag mccormy.

hey has his opinion. it's not my opinion or anyone elses, but you have to respect it, cause of his track record. i'm of the opinion that we don't need to slag anyone - just get the f*** on and try to make a difference - but some ppl just get to the stage where they've had enough. i can respect this. you get older, try sooo hard to make music, you think no-one is listening, you work like no-one you know (guys, trying to become a good producer is the madest head mash ever!!), no bills are being paid, you're trying to be creative but all the distributors are telling you your music is shite and not selling, what the hell are you to do????

me? i have my djing. thank god. although i spend all week in the studio, making a living to pay the rent and to feed the kids out of production is not a issue. not that i have kids, but you see my point.

why can you guys just not see that mccormacks statement is simply one of frustration and passion. ok, wish him luck, and let's get on with it. i personallly don't agree with him that all techno is shite, but i do see his point. but that's his life. great.. move on.

stop picking nits with his statement. respect him, wish him luck and let's go.

RESPECT TO THE MCCORMATRON :)

[The Divide]

I would like to say a few things

I agree with the bongo thing, straight samples arnt very interesting compared to some twisted manipulated sound design. I think it’s a shame you people choose to quit and personally I don’t really understand it

Officially quitting the production is like ending a hobby. I can understand pulling your own label if you’re loosing out. I can understand getting a job and producing part time. But saying your quitting something which you’re passionate about is insane. Im guessing hes still going to be writing music in his spare time?

Anyways we should be focusing on the good shit and trying to generate outside interest, setting out differences aside and educating each other and especially those that don’t really know about techno. There does seem to be lots of uncreative shit out there, but it’s by no where near as bad as ‘popular mainstream’ music. We should fight that, it’s the real enemy.

So yea, anyways I honour you MCM and this is a loss.

I don’t like the way this was done tho. It’s not the spirit I like to see tho. All that matters is that the party still goes on as far as I’m concerned.

[Mirsha]

Officially quitting the production is like ending a hobby. I can understand pulling your own label if you’re loosing out. I can understand getting a job and producing part time. But saying your quitting something which you’re passionate about is insane. Im guessing hes still going to be writing music in his spare time?

Mr McCormack has always as far as I've known, held a steady 9-5 job and always produced in his spare time.

[RDR]

Hmm, i dont think chris is quitting music. He's just not producing any techno records anymore, i think he also said that he has been doing music for commercial television.

Good on ya mate! best o luck.

[miasma man]

Man, this is bad news.

McCormack was/is an inspiration for us all.

Good luck with the future - stay true to your soul.

Peace

[primevil]

It's quite interesting how the human species has a tendancy to get confortable with something and then not like to change. Even for the most innovate of people, it can be hard to let something go. Alot of people tend to defend a genre, like they are part of a tribe or something...its crazy. The scene moves forwards by rebellian. Remember 'disco sucks'? I respect genres for what good times they have given me over the past, but i don't stand by them because thats where I feel confortable. I stand by the electronic scene as a whole. Alot of fantastic slower minimal/acid/tech-house/electro/musical (whatever you want to call it) is coming out at the moment and it's really exciting. Alot of techno purists refuse to get into it as they prefer the 'harder' music. This music is thriving with amazing ideas at the moment, so why not mix it up with the techno to spice it up? FUK THE RULES and FUK THE GENRES and always evolve.

[marginmaster]

Mr Mckormack is a living legend, gutted one of my fave producers is quitting.
good luck mate, all the best :clap:

[robin m]

There does seem to be lots of uncreative shit out there, but it’s by no where near as bad as ‘popular mainstream’ music.

All that matters is that the party still goes on as far as I’m concerned.

I agree with this 100%.

And to Mr McCormack;



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[Adverse]

So it seems that to succeed you have to be 'up to the challenge' in a business sense, and to chase success - this is what I find sad about the whole thing.

man, sad or not, if you don't push your music and fight for your props, then dont throw a tantrum when nobody pays attention.

who threw a tantrum? all i read were his own humble opinions. give me a break.

p.s. chris thanks.

[tocsin]

well i really think alot of you guys need to grow up.

or at least get involved in trying to make a living out of music.

Give it a rest, Mark. You have no idea what people do or don't do in music here unless they choose to tell you. I really don't get you guys on this forum sometimes. I swear, "techno" is the only genre of music where artists will bitch about how thigs are so bad for them because so many other artists around them suck. In every other music scene I've been involved with, particularly anything "underground," the shitty acts didn't matter because, in the end, they just made you shine that much more. I'm tired of the constant spite that surrounds popularity, not quality, that I see posted here. It is so ****ing old already. If you are one of those people who has grown up and tried making a living out of music, then I hope you learned awhile ago that popularity comes and goes with particular sounds. So something that you consider "shit" sells better than your best work? Again, I repeat, get over it, get over yourself, evolve. Britney Spears has sold more records than all of us collectively.

perpet, i had to post this up - it's totally an issue for me and we needed to talk about it - BUT we didn't need to slag mccormy.

Who's slagging him? Has anyone said his music sucked? A couple of us disagreed with his "negative" message. A message that targetted a lot of people without even naming them. Who was slagging who?

hey has his opinion. it's not my opinion or anyone elses, but you have to respect it, cause of his track record.

Wrong. I don't have to respect anyone's opinion if it's bullshit just because they have a few records out. Especially when, in the end, it was just a bland opinion I've heard a thousand times before from other people who try and make themselves appear superior to others.

i'm of the opinion that we don't need to slag anyone - just get the f*** on and try to make a difference - but some ppl just get to the stage where they've had enough. i can respect this. you get older, try sooo hard to make music, you think no-one is listening, you work like no-one you know (guys, trying to become a good producer is the madest head mash ever!!), no bills are being paid, you're trying to be creative but all the distributors are telling you your music is shite and not selling, what the hell are you to do????

"Get over it. Get over yourself. Evolve." I'm well used to the fact that most people aren't listening to stuff I've worked on. But, you don't see me popping shit about other styles of music as being the problem. When nobody listens to what I write, that is my fault. As DeafMosaic points out, you need to promote yourself. On the other hand, even if you do that, if you're making music for an incredibly small niche of an already niche market, you might just have to accept the fact that your tracks won't be so popular. YOUR best might not be what the market considers the best. Why is this a problem?

why can you guys just not see that mccormacks statement is simply one of frustration and passion.

That doesn't excuse it. If you make a bullshit statement because of frustration and passion, you should own up to the fact that it was bullshit later. I don't know how it is in your neck of the woods, but he displayed the exact attitude which turns so many people off to "techno" over here. It's why you're lucky to have 150 people at a techno party in NYC. The kids who would be into it got tired of being reminded by snobs how much their taste in music sucked. I can't even "respect" his decision to quit. In the end, so ****ing what? Lots of people quit without making an Eric Cartman like speech before doing so. "Screw you guys, I'm going home!"

[holotropik]

Oh, Chris I feel the same way dude....sorry to see you feel like this and I wish you all the best. Your stuff has been an inspiration thats fo sure.

As for some of you....well....??

BTW, just because "Britney" or whoever the f*ck sells records doesnt mean its good music.....its just marketed right to ignorant fools who have no taste. Sure you can say..."But its all opinion or taste"....but that dont make it right coz the "taste" you refer to is governed by the ignorant sheep who swallow the tosh thats dished up to them by super-marketing hype.