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    I'm truly sorry some of you are seeing me in a certain light. I never meant to come across as arrogent or only interested in selling records or whatever other accusations are flying around. This is 100% the oppostite of the person I am. I really cant do anymore than type words and hope you interpret them as I am thinking them. The reality is I am a passionate and caring person who just happened to have an opinion about a scene I have been involved with for many years now. Guys please remember I didnt activily go looking for publicity, I didnt phone up a load of journo's and try and concoct a situation - it was just announced on my own website, where there is little or no real traffic so that those who came there would know. Whatever is written about me, I have the right to tell the people who come to my website what I think about stuff. Some of you are acting like I jizzed the news into your faces. Some of you have never heard of my name and it seems the the biggest aggressors have never heard anyting I've done either. I don't really know how I can try and reason things in this situation because I cant imagine you would ever come to my website in the first place and want to be part of anything I am involved with anyway.

    Some of you accused me of only being here to shift units and as soon as one record loses money I am out. But I only release maybe two records a year, how do you work this out? The rest of the time is spent writing music that none of you will hear, well what I mean is you wont be aware it is me behind the music. Like I have just completed an album for commercial television use.

    I'm only in techno for the love like most of you and personally I'm just tired of wading through one record after another to find something exciting and fresh where the producer has obviously made something not just aimed at pleasing a distributor and selling a few records and keeping the label going. It is the the same for every currently active DJ that I know, and I do know a fair few of the bigger names, they just wont publicly admit this because it might cause there bookings to tail off, even though privately they are in agreement with me on this. I'm sorry some of you don't see it like this and think I am doing it to be a dramatic and arrogent person, but the fact is I have never been here for personal gain, only to always try and push myself to making better music and only release the music I believe is worth releasing. I respect anyones rights to be into whatever they are into. If some of you don't think that a lot of techno is boring, formulaic and automated then that is cool, but there no need to get personal with me because I, along with many others, do.

    Anyway it doesn't matter anymore, like I also said in the orignal piece, thanks to everyone to has supported me over the years, it means the world to me to find people who like what I do.

    If you still want to pick this apart and find faults, I can't do anything about that and I'm sorry we even have situations like this. All I ever tried to do was something positive..

    Cheers, Chris.

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    McCormack's techno is fark'n insane :clap: 'There r better ways' is totally off it's head!!!! :lol:

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    If they are having problems finding exciting and fresh techno records to play then I have to say its their own fault for being just as fomulaic as DJ's as the producers who produce these crappy records they talk about.

    Who's meant to be inspiring who?

    I ditched the bongo techno or whatever loopiness years ago and havent looked back . I just find it amusing sometimes the amount of amazing music/techno that big names and small names regularily bypass and never put into their sets. Its crazy. Its as much their fault as the people who try to emulate them.

    Anyway good luck chris. You are a decent dude.

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    sorry to hear that man you're truly a legend, i remember when i first heard flight decimator all those years ago.

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    I think it's a shame, and I'm not 100% sure I agree 'bout where techno is...

    ...but respect.

    Many people have thought this I'm sure. Some people get over it an get re-inspired, some just need to leave it.

    Good luck what ever you do. Erase Techno is a tune that holds a memory so you've impacted on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by massplanck
    If they are having problems finding exciting and fresh techno records to play then I have to say its their own fault for being just as fomulaic as DJ's as the producers who produce these crappy records they talk about.
    Exactly. Just what I was hinting towards when I brought up perspective and stubborness.

    Quote Originally Posted by EraseTechno
    Some of you accused me of only being here to shift units and as soon as one record loses money I am out. But I only release maybe two records a year, how do you work this out? The rest of the time is spent writing music that none of you will hear, well what I mean is you wont be aware it is me behind the music. Like I have just completed an album for commercial television use.
    I haven't seen that here. But, in your own words, you said something was wrong with techno when your "best" record can't break even and loopy shit with bongos seems to be what techno is all about. Dave basically covered most of what I was feeling in a nicer way. I'm sick of hearing this shit and, regardless of your right to an opinion, how you've solicited it (webpages are public), what you've done, etc., it still comes off incredibly spiteful and holier than thou. Personally, most of my work usually would fall into one of the least popular genres of techno. But, you don't hear me pissing and moaning about how the style of music you like is shit as a result. I don't look down my upturned nose at others for not being into the music while yapping about all I've done to "move things forward." But, you have a right to talk in such a way just as I have a right to tell you to sod off for it.
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    man the guy accuses me of "masturbating on web forums" WTF?! all this "I quit" bullshit is the truest fork of web wanking. erase techno? techno erased you!

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    Wot a load of bollocks, he hasn't gone around spouting it on forums, simply posted an explanation on his website.

    His music speaks for itself, no self promotion, no referring to himself in the third person or endless i'am'inations, it's a sad loss to good techno, and a sad indicator that self-aggrandisement and lowest common denominator fodder music are what matter in dance music in these times.

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    man, i am telling you: ALL OF US ARE HAVIN PROBLEMS, distribution getting tough, sales are down, but that is why it is called DEDICATION.

    i have seen a whole lot in this game, ppl come, ppl go, ppl die, ppl get drummed out of the industry, ppl get discovered by big money, ppl get exploited, i bet i have seen more horrible shit go down in this industry than i did back in my days as a hustler on the streets back home. but that is the name of the game, and i aim to finish out my run on top, not on the sidelines whining that i am starving to death.


    you got to play the hand dealt to ya. put one foot in front of the other and keep your eyes on the prize.



    let's look at this with some realism for a moment:

    when you got into this, it was probably a hobby. you knew you would n't be playing every weekend and so yopu did this music for yourself, out of love.... then something happened... i call it EGO. you realized you had been doing a dozen or so "quality" releases and still you couldn't eat from this shit, but now you EXPECTED that the world owed you a living and so you got pissed off and (forgetting those early days before your ego told you the world owes you a living) you decide to "retire" from a game you never mastered in the first place. does that about sum it up?

    ask yourself:


    what has changed within me? why is it that i am not happy being unkown but making my music and working hard, any more! i want more! sounds like jealousy. dont get me wrong, in the uk you have so many superstar djs that it would make one a bit jealous, understandably.........


    anyway, in this situation you have two choices of action - if you are not happy because you dont get enough gigs to survive and your labels only sell 800 copies, you can

    A - pick up your toys and go home

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    B- use your anger to motivate you tto change your situation, work hard, and break through the "obscurity" wall with your determination and dedication.


    THERE IS NO PERFECT SITUATION.

    i respect if somebody says "i dont like techno music anymore" but this IS A MATTER OF TASTE.

    I AM JUST SICK OF ALL THE COMPLAINERS DOING NOTHING BUT DRAGGING THE REST OF US DOWN WITH THEM.

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    this thread has gotten old. no one is saying anything that wasn't said on pages 1-5 already, and now it's just a bunch of people pissing on each other.

    chris: good luck, hope you still make music...
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    hey smart ass, i am not pissing on anybody. i am just speaking frankly. pissing on somebody would be saying something like "good, you suck so f uck off anyway" i din't say anything of the sort. the point i am trying to make, and i waill say it yet again before i sign off and go back into the studio, is that no matter how many records you have or dont have out, no matter how many gigs you get or dont get, WE HAVE TO BE UP TO THE CHALLENGE. if you are not, then go out quietly and with dignity, not in a pitty party as is the trand these days. i haven't put out a record in 6 or 8 months due to complications with distri, etc. etc. etc. but you better believe the next one will come out, if i have to sell em' on the street corner or fly around to record stores myself..

    even with a minimum of resources, one can go after success, CmC got website, probably a nice network of artists and contacts, what else do you need besides a studio, to keep going?

    man i aint even got my own p.c., to work on these days, no website, my labels are between distributors at the moment too! but i aint giving up. about to sign with a new distributor. getting me a mac when i get home, the website will be back up when i settle down, but you CmC, why burn up all your bridges? say you make some amzing tune next week, you just gonna keep it on your ipod and that is that?

    if i didnt have respect for you, i wouldn't bother trying to encourage you to
    stick it out!


    you guys may see me as some negative, opinionated asshole for ome of the shit i have been posting since i have been on my sebaticle here in latin america, but if you are too blind to see that i am pushy out of TOUGH LOVE, then you deserve not to understand the community spirit we shoulld be exhibiting rather than all the whining and inconsequential bullshit that goes on round here.

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    cant even count the typos there. EDIT BUTTON!?!?

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    So it seems that to succeed you have to be 'up to the challenge' in a business sense, and to chase success - this is what I find sad about the whole thing.

    The emphasis has shifted from music lovers that seek out the music they like to music consumers who react to the best marketing angl. That was the best thing about techno music, no bullshit, no compromise, seek and you will find... that a truly talented producer suffers in record sales and mediocrity prospers then it's a slightly worrying trend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deafmosaic
    hey smart ass, i am not pissing on anybody. i am just speaking frankly.
    i posted that BEFORE i saw your latest...it's a general comment based on the ENTIRE conversation here...why do you think this has to be about you? do i say your name ever, at any point? do i make any references to you? no and NOOOOOOOOOO. what do you think "each other" means anyways? does that mean gunjack? if it does, please tell me what dictionary you use so i can correct my imprecise english...

    ;)
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    besides, dustin and henry said it best and waaaaaay more effectively than anything else i've read on here...

    don't give up chris, as long as you come on here, listen to techno, whatever, you ain't quit in my book...
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlongfingers
    Wot a load of bollocks, he hasn't gone around spouting it on forums, simply posted an explanation on his website.

    His music speaks for itself, no self promotion, no referring to himself in the third person or endless i'am'inations, it's a sad loss to good techno, and a sad indicator that self-aggrandisement and lowest common denominator fodder music are what matter in dance music in these times.
    Funny. Every single person I know who listens to techno talks the same crap. "It ain't as good as it used to be," "sell outs," "lowest common denominator," blah blah blah! Is your hand ever forced to listen to or buy what you think is crap? For the past 15 years, there have been more "techno" releases I've heard that I thought were "crap" than good. I really don't see how it's any different now. Rather, it seems more people started bitching about it when the style they enjoyed was no longer considered the new hot chick. Get over it. Get over yourself. Evolve.
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    no-one ever made ME buy a record. i bought what i liked. and if there was nothing i liked, i didnt buy.

    whats the problem










    one more thing. nobody said shit about McCs departure until it was brought to the notice of this board.

    had Sir Mark of EG not posted this, how long would it have taken to surface here i wonder.



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    Quote Originally Posted by perpetual
    no-one ever made ME buy a record. i bought what i liked. and if there was nothing i liked, i didnt buy.

    whats the problem
    Exactly. No problem at all. Techno isn't in a mess and nothing has changed. Thus, all the ranting I see here about it pretty much reminds me of 15-year-old girls getting catty in a popularity contest.
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    come on guys i think everyones said their piece now surely? even i dont drag things out this long

    he's made his choice, some agree, some havent, surely everyone has other things they can do than worry about someone who, for some, have never even heard his music, saw his face, read an interview etc... it beggars belief... dont get so het up about something you admit you dont care for... ive made that mistake myself many many times so i know what im talking about

    take off the "techno" heads for a moment and just realise Chris is an actual person like the rest of us and is probably feeling very low and a bit surpressed at the moment, how about just wishing him good luck or at least leaving it be? we all know how one another feels about it now....

    come on group hug, kiss, make up, go for a pint etc etc etc ;)
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    best of luck to chris - his music has been an inspiration + he has made some of my favorite tracks - good luk

 

 
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