Quote Originally Posted by MARK EG
well i really think alot of you guys need to grow up.

or at least get involved in trying to make a living out of music.
Give it a rest, Mark. You have no idea what people do or don't do in music here unless they choose to tell you. I really don't get you guys on this forum sometimes. I swear, "techno" is the only genre of music where artists will bitch about how thigs are so bad for them because so many other artists around them suck. In every other music scene I've been involved with, particularly anything "underground," the shitty acts didn't matter because, in the end, they just made you shine that much more. I'm tired of the constant spite that surrounds popularity, not quality, that I see posted here. It is so ****ing old already. If you are one of those people who has grown up and tried making a living out of music, then I hope you learned awhile ago that popularity comes and goes with particular sounds. So something that you consider "shit" sells better than your best work? Again, I repeat, get over it, get over yourself, evolve. Britney Spears has sold more records than all of us collectively.

perpet, i had to post this up - it's totally an issue for me and we needed to talk about it - BUT we didn't need to slag mccormy.
Who's slagging him? Has anyone said his music sucked? A couple of us disagreed with his "negative" message. A message that targetted a lot of people without even naming them. Who was slagging who?

hey has his opinion. it's not my opinion or anyone elses, but you have to respect it, cause of his track record.
Wrong. I don't have to respect anyone's opinion if it's bullshit just because they have a few records out. Especially when, in the end, it was just a bland opinion I've heard a thousand times before from other people who try and make themselves appear superior to others.

i'm of the opinion that we don't need to slag anyone - just get the f*** on and try to make a difference - but some ppl just get to the stage where they've had enough. i can respect this. you get older, try sooo hard to make music, you think no-one is listening, you work like no-one you know (guys, trying to become a good producer is the madest head mash ever!!), no bills are being paid, you're trying to be creative but all the distributors are telling you your music is shite and not selling, what the hell are you to do????
"Get over it. Get over yourself. Evolve." I'm well used to the fact that most people aren't listening to stuff I've worked on. But, you don't see me popping shit about other styles of music as being the problem. When nobody listens to what I write, that is my fault. As DeafMosaic points out, you need to promote yourself. On the other hand, even if you do that, if you're making music for an incredibly small niche of an already niche market, you might just have to accept the fact that your tracks won't be so popular. YOUR best might not be what the market considers the best. Why is this a problem?

why can you guys just not see that mccormacks statement is simply one of frustration and passion.
That doesn't excuse it. If you make a bullshit statement because of frustration and passion, you should own up to the fact that it was bullshit later. I don't know how it is in your neck of the woods, but he displayed the exact attitude which turns so many people off to "techno" over here. It's why you're lucky to have 150 people at a techno party in NYC. The kids who would be into it got tired of being reminded by snobs how much their taste in music sucked. I can't even "respect" his decision to quit. In the end, so ****ing what? Lots of people quit without making an Eric Cartman like speech before doing so. "Screw you guys, I'm going home!"