what about pressing play on a bunch of 909 rhythms and 303 patterns? iam not trying to cause beef but live is a lot more than just triggering things, ableton1, 2 and 3 to a point could have fallen into a loop trigger catagory but even then the boundaries of that loop manipulation were way beyond other stuff........ableton 4 is whatever ya want it to be and 5 is really beyond most stuff part from being a bit late with the freeze fuction........Originally Posted by perpetual