Quote Originally Posted by Paul Nisbet
Quote Originally Posted by EmotionComplex
personally i dont think theres much hard trance left anymore, im not into 90% of what the uk is churning out and theres very little coming from anywere else right now, the harder techyer stuff im still liking but that equates to about 2 records a month which would make it kinda hard to play a set :lol:

in my eyes the whole thing is hanging in there by a thread and has been for a long time, it seems to me that people will settle for a lot less then they used to, rewind 4 years check out 10 releases then fast forward to the present, we havent moved an inch.

theres only been a handful of people who have bothered to try something different, the rest have been sticking to the same tired templates were all mind numbingly used to.

its music i find it hard to take seriously now, sorry about the rant but thats my view on the whole thing
that rant just makes u come across arsey mate, you have decent production skills, so why not give it a bash?

Dont think its half as bad as ur making out, i reckon ur right on not moving forward an inch, but expected somethng more positive from you.

JTB, Log the **** log, Ultraform etc are in my eyes pushin bounderies.....

why not devote our attention to the talent the scene has left?

I find that a rant on a scene you either dont feel anymore, or are not up to date with. There is stilll expermintation out there, that is clear.


JTB (his production has moved into a league of his own recently, FACT), Log. Ultraform (Evolution is a good example), and SANDERS (Ie ben sanders, frm klasic and sanders) are producing class class **** hard trance.


Kramer and pogadal can run and jump, as much as u guys love them, there sound was stale, and very shit in the end.


Scot project is still pumpin em out, but at the end of the day, WAG, KAN COLD, DERB etc alll sound like they have had some helpin hand from him.


Wats gonna happen?

i dont appreciate being called arsey when all im doing is getting across something im pretty passionate about in answer to a post were you asked for peoples opinions. im not sure how it can be arsey as i have no angle in whch saying this benefits me.

i cant help the opinion i have on things and its all down to the fact that i care about whats happened, im not being arsey im expressing a opinion that has taken me a long time to form and one that i personally feel has truth behind it.

"you have decent production skills, so why not give it a bash?"

thats all ive been doing for the past couple of years mate, i dont belive i have done anything good enough yet however but im putting in all the time i have to try.

as for mr baptist, his hard trance has been solid, and hes definetly been the strong producer from the uk but its the new turn hes making right now that i consider to be a move forward, the deeper trance hes working on right now sounds great, this is whats needed, music with more depth to it.

as for devoting attention to the talent thats left, thats what got me to form this whole opinion in th first place, were relying on a handful of people to keep it all going, letting the crap come out and falling back on the "oh well at least such and such released a corker this month!"

"I find that a rant on a scene you either dont feel anymore"

thats my point exactally! if i was happy about it then this opinion wouldnt exist, which is why im expressing it to see if anyone out there shares it.

i loved the trance scene man, i was really into hard trance for years, this is not a personal dis to anyone dj producer or listeneer nor is it a dis to people who still belive in the scene, maybe im just not getting something or expecting far to much from dance music but i cant help feel that weve hit a brick wall and no one else has noticed or if they have wont say it.

maybe im being to general i dont know, maybe i dont see the scene in the same way as you and other people might but all i know is it feels like weve been stuck in pause for years, not so much buying a new track any more, its more like buying an slightly altered version of an old one..again...and again.