How Important Is Money In The Creative Sense ?

**dirty_bass** · 10-08-2005, 02:22 AM

The problem with ho`s is that when left on their own, they always end up in a tangled mess in the garden shed.
Which is fine until a trick comes round and you trying to sell the merchandise, and there it is, in the shed, dribbling all over the cuprinol and the workmate, stinking like white spirit, and making a mess of the swarfega.

**davethedrummer** · 10-08-2005, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

The problem with ho`s is that when left on their own, they always end up in a tangled mess in the garden shed.
Which is fine until a trick comes round and you trying to sell the merchandise, and there it is, in the shed, dribbling all over the cuprinol and the workmate, stinking like white spirit, and making a mess of the swarfega.

i'm with you there man

bummer....

**DJAmok** · 10-08-2005, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Originally Posted by DJAmok

Money? bah.

It's all about the ho's :lol: That's why men make music, that's why they have been making music since the dawn of man. So they can get babes that others can't. And after all these years.... it still works ;)

What if you`ve got ya girl?
I`m happy with mine

Okay, in that case it's all about yachts, limos, 5 star hotels, cocaine orgys, private jets and all the other stuff us filthy rich techno artists enjoy ;)

But seriously, at the end of the day nobody will care about the money. Just ask yourself what you would be more proud of, when you tell your kids about the best time of your life. "I was a DJ and I made a load of quick cash" or "I was a DJ and had a great time travelling the world and making people happy." Money is nice to make, it pays the rent and all, but it's not what motivates an artist.

**Internal Error Records** · 10-08-2005, 04:23 AM

About the money? See here is the issue - - -

Its amazing how much money you have to make just to be poor.

Vinyl, CD's, gear, whatever, is not cheap.

Every artist, every label, has to fight for every pennie just to keep production rolling. and if a record does sell well, than the artist/label should have something put in there pocket. because enough has come out of the pocket.

Technics, Pioneer, Ableton, etc all want their money. And they need you to make money in order to give them some.

As an artist I want to create my own original ideas, but also as an artist I want to stay in the game. Not starve out.. . .

**The Overfiend** · 10-08-2005, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by Internal Error Records

About the money? See here is the issue - - -

Its amazing how much money you have to make just to be poor.

Vinyl, CD's, gear, whatever, is not cheap.

Every artist, every label, has to fight for every pennie just to keep production rolling. and if a record does sell well, than the artist/label should have something put in there pocket. because enough has come out of the pocket.

Technics, Pioneer, Ableton, etc all want their money. And they need you to make money in order to give them some.

As an artist I want to create my own original ideas, but also as an artist I want to stay in the game. Not starve out.. . .

Thats my dude right there, all so true, and Amok, the ho's this is so true. I didn't see too many in the nyc party and the ones that were there.......

**Dustin Zahn** · 10-08-2005, 06:24 AM

To say money isn't an important issue these days in techno is complete bullshit. That goes for the bigger dogs anyway. I can think of a lot of techno producers who made excellent tools and tracks who've moved on to big room, filtered down, tacky synth build-up b.s. "techno." Why? They have been getting different and better paying gigs and a producer is normally inspired by the crowds he/she plays for. Any promoters here? Ever been in a bidding war for a techno DJ? It's ridiculous. We lose DJs all the time to NYC and Chicago. Why? Money. For many of the bigger guys, money alters their creative process as well as final decisions.

In business terms, like running a record label...I say the more money, the better (if you're repsonsible enough to handle it). Ever notice how some of the most professional and consistent sounding/looking record labels always seem to sell the most copies? Having the money won't make your label a good one, but with proper business skills it's definitely a great tool for marketing, packaging, and more.

From a production stand point, some producers work better with gear rather than computers. Maybe money can afford them that gear. Usually it doesn't, and having a studio full of equipment you don't know will only hinder your performance. I use some hardware, a sony laptop, and stock soundcard. Anybody can get by with the basics as long they have some character inside them.

**eyes without a face** · 10-08-2005, 09:25 AM

yeah ive never been a money kinda person, if ive got it sound, if i havent, err well sound too

**gumpy green** · 10-08-2005, 11:56 AM

the way i see it you can still work a 9-5 and if you hav it in you still churn out the goods in yer spare time. ya dont need ££££ to do so.....

loads o folks do it and i dont recon it stops ther stuff being good/creative.

creativity come from your soul/mind......not making £££

all you need is some decent tools which do cost but once you have em its the person

**BloodStar** · 10-08-2005, 01:33 PM

**** money and do it your way!

**Ritzi Lee** · 10-08-2005, 02:52 PM

without money,
no new investments for better gear or perfection in your studio,
no money for buying records / supporting labels,
no money to support your own label, so less possibility to release stuff,
travelling, studio rent, hotel, food, drinks, ho's and shit.....

on a creative level there's no real connection with the money,
but eventually you want to extent your possibilities for greater creations.

got it??????????

**dirty_bass** · 10-08-2005, 06:02 PM

To be truly creative, and especially to learn and have time to commit to all the stuff involved with getting professional results, you do need a lot of time. A 9-5 will take this away from you. I mean sometimes you need 3 or 4 straight days in the studio to do shit, and that IS 9-5.
So it is a total juggle.
Djing is a little easier as you can get into it in the few hours you have when you get home from work, but producing is a little different.
Same with painting, you need to commit, and make sacrifices if you want to really get good.

**MARKEG** · 10-08-2005, 09:12 PM

just don't let money become the only drive. it's simply really. some of us need different levels of comfort in our lives. if you like fast cars, big houses and lots of food then i certianly havent got a problem with that. i personally choose to just have enough to get by and not worry about a man coming knocking on my door in a suit. that's my choice. imo, money is virus that never ends. sure, have different things in your life that bring in money if you need it but when it comes to making music, you just cant let your output be driven by it. how can you be creative and explore avenues that are complex and thoughtful when you have something in your head that says 'i must get this track completed yesterday to pay the bills'. i have things in my life that enable me to pay the bills, but it's not by making music or being in the studio being creative.

sure ppl have 200000 dollar studios, churn out track after track of the same pop record but what is this doing for the advancement of music? my advice is have two things in your life: 1 that pays and 1 that gives you pure, complete happiness that has nothing to do with cash.

but then again, i am a gemini :) ;)

**dan the acid man** · 10-08-2005, 10:26 PM

yeah, i was brought up to respect money, if i dont have it, i dont spend it, its always kept me out of trouble

**audioinjection** · 11-08-2005, 10:39 PM

its all about sippin on yak, and rollin on dubs

**Jay Pace** · 12-08-2005, 12:16 AM

I wish I was in it for the love, but I'm a slave to the man.

I just can't resist rollin' in the benjamins.

Guess I'll have to keep knockin out top tens under my boy-band guise until the techno community is ready to take me seriously.

If anyone is interested I have pics for sale of my bukkake session with 'Girls Aloud'

That Tweedy has a fanny like a welly top, no lie.

**holotropik** · 12-08-2005, 01:15 AM

money - music

totally opposite entities that are always in battle. taming the ego is the key to minimising the pain of this ever present want for more or better. unfortunately this is not helped by the pace at which technology improves our sound.

**GothamGrooves.com** · 18-08-2005, 03:35 AM

Money has nothing to do with creativity. You can sit in your basement in your spare time and draw all the paintings you want or make all the techno you can. But thats as a hobby. And even your hobby requires resources that dont come cheap.
If you want to live off of your art form it takes money straight up. Unless you are independently wealthy, money is unfortunatley a big part of our scene. From the parties promoters throw to fund the dj's, to the gear producers use to make techno, to the artists who buy techno it all takes money.

**A.P.** · 18-08-2005, 07:59 PM

As we all know there's very little money (maybe none for some) to be made in the underground dance scene and if you are thinking of trying to make money then i dont think your heart is totally with the music.

Ok money plays a big part in everyday life as we all need to live but producing music comes with passion and a love for it, i think it's a way of expressing your feelings how you feel at that present time.

That's my views anyway people, hope you understand what i'm trying to say ;) ;)

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