this forum sound be about production, not style

errr mark im sorry but thats my point exactly, and that quote was actually defending that style of techno, i did say although its not my bag it is popular and alot of it is well produced, so i really dont see the problem there

this is exactly the kind of thing i meant in my pm's mate, if it'l make people happier then feel free to remove or edit my posts, save's on the moaning