VINYL or MP3?

[dan the acid man]

im struggling to read these posts

[TechMouse]

im struggling to read these posts

You're not missing much.

[gumpy green]

except that you cant wear a mp3 on a piece of string around your neck like i do with 12"......


BLING BLING out to all you audio compression SUkAZ.


;)

[networker]

except that you cant wear a mp3 on a piece of string around your neck like i do with 12"......


BLING BLING out to all you audio compression SUkAZ.


;)

yeah mate. :clap:

lets have a surge of releases on gold vinyln and really get somethin goin here bro

[gumpy green]

u know it to be true.....


this is the way forward-




DO THAT WITH AN MP3 you SUKA'Z

[tocsin]

MP3 and here is why.

1.) Vinyl snobs, particularly when they are techno heads listening to music that is often made with digital instruments, are annoying. Suggesting that one would even think about DJing with a CD could actually give such a person a stroke under the right circumstances. Thus, just to give the anal little fukcs something to bitch about, I will always side with MP3 until MP3 snobs begin to exist and outnumber the vinyl snobs.

2.) MP3 has made piracy easy. Piracy has given the industry, and numerous piss poor artists, an immeasurable excuse that sales are hurting because of pirated MP3s, and not a crappy selection of boring and predictable music. I love the techno has-beens of the past too much to let them know that a good reason why a number of their albums don't sell as hot is because they don't sound any different than they did 10 years ago. But, that's only the reason when they don't suck because they sound different than they did 10 years ago. Either way, yeah, it's MP3's fault and, therefore, saves some egos.

3.) Expanding on number 2, I can burn MP3s to CD, or use some digital DJ format, to play music at clubs. I enjoy doing this because it's amusing to see the artists bitch about people playing pirated versions of their songs which they spent days working on and properly EQing all the uncleared samples within the songs themselves. Pimpin' aint easy.

;)

[Jay Pace]

Tocsin you beauty!

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[networker]

Pimpin' aint easy. ;)[/quote]

shit yeah m8, lets back the underdogs until they become the favourites, then when all the independant stores go under we can all bitch about the good old daze as usual. that's gotta be true to form eh bro? i can see the threads appearin already. tee hee

pimpin' made easier

http://www.playerappreciate.com/pimphandle.asp

[dan the acid man]

MP3 and here is why.

1.) Vinyl snobs, particularly when they are techno heads listening to music that is often made with digital instruments, are annoying. Suggesting that one would even think about DJing with a CD could actually give such a person a stroke under the right circumstances. Thus, just to give the anal little fukcs something to bitch about, I will always side with MP3 until MP3 snobs begin to exist and outnumber the vinyl snobs.

2.) MP3 has made piracy easy. Piracy has given the industry, and numerous piss poor artists, an immeasurable excuse that sales are hurting because of pirated MP3s, and not a crappy selection of boring and predictable music. I love the techno has-beens of the past too much to let them know that a good reason why a number of their albums don't sell as hot is because they don't sound any different than they did 10 years ago. But, that's only the reason when they don't suck because they sound different than they did 10 years ago. Either way, yeah, it's MP3's fault and, therefore, saves some egos.

3.) Expanding on number 2, I can burn MP3s to CD, or use some digital DJ format, to play music at clubs. I enjoy doing this because it's amusing to see the artists bitch about people playing pirated versions of their songs which they spent days working on and properly EQing all the uncleared samples within the songs themselves. Pimpin' aint easy.

;)

are you serious, even if the whole techno scene went to legal downloadable mp3's instead of vinyl, you'd still get people stealing music for free, just because they can.
yes, some of the blame in poor sales can be attributed to poor music, and an influx of people releasing poor music, just because theythink having loads of software on their pcs and this makes them a producer :lol:

but theres also alot of people stealing music they love, just because its so easy and cheaper for them.
so you will still get this no matter what you do

[tocsin]

are you serious

What do you think?





































Hint: Answer is both "yes" and "no." ;)

[dan the acid man]

so is that a maybe then :lol:

[tocsin]

Hehe. Nah. I really do prefer MP3 (or to be more honest "digital") to vinyl. Reason #1 is mostly honest, believe it or not. ;) Two and 3 were just piss takes.

People have laid down their arguments for vinyl and MP3 over and over and over again and they haven't changed at all since the first time I saw one.

So, my main reasons for preferring MP3.

1.) No "Wow and Flutter," humming or any other type of feedback associated with turn table technology.
2.) No panning limitations. I often pan the shit out of my kick drums in tracks and, when cut to vinyl, the force of that effect is lost to a substantial degree. Not with digital though.
3.) Ease of distribution.

Don't care if anyone else really likes digital or MP3. But, I am tired of hearing how one is so much better than the other. To all the people listening to a purely analog record for the first time on a super-expensive suspended yuppie audiophile system, sure I'll humor that the one play of that record is so beautiful as to make you reach an orgasm that mp3 never could. But, for the money spent, I'd rather just wait a year or two for the artist who wrote the track to come around and pay $25 at most to hear it live. ;)
I will never have any dedication to a medium that noticably limits what I like to do. Vinyl does that. I'm looking forward to when DVD decks become affordable and, hopefully, can output video with sound to make for an all in one VJ/DJ experience.

[francois]

call me old fashioned, but mp3 over a large PA just doesnt have the same sound quality, fine, mp3's are great for d/loading and checking out new stuff but when it comes to the dynamics of sound you cannot beat wax

[g]

because large PAs, which are most often mono and really poorly cared for, sound so good in the audiophile sense?

i've heard more than enough 256kbps mp3s played simultaneously with vinyl. 99% of the time you can't tell. or they sound better, depending on the mastering.



all this is to say nothing of personal preference for one vs the other, which i'll stay away from. but arguing the sound of (good) mp3s on a club system is... not an argument.

[Heroes]

The mp3 dj thing is good for people who want to play collect, and have a varied choice, without paying £7.00 for a vinyl they only like one track on. utopian concept, dosnt work that way though, the attitude at presenet is in a virgin state, ive not met a mp3 dj who plays tracks he bought most are borrowed, downloaded, swapped, whatever you wanna call it, oooh hold on then one more to add, "thieved" its a good way for some people to break who dont have the funds to otherwise persue, but its a destructive way across the board, digital will be as much a breaker as it will be a maker.....i cant wait until you grafted months on albums only to see sales not even cover ya rent.......but please remember to send me a copy. well no leave it ill download a copy from soul seeker, because my sister, her mate, her mates mum, her mates mums auntie, wants a copy to......Ah f**k it while iam at it iam doing a car boot sunday ill burn a few more copies, cheeeeers.

[networker]

The mp3 dj thing is good for people who want to play collect, and have a varied choice, without paying £7.00 for a vinyl they only like one track on. utopian concept, dosnt work that way though, the attitude at presenet is in a virgin state, ive not met a mp3 dj who plays tracks he bought most are borrowed, downloaded, swapped, whatever you wanna call it, oooh hold on then one more to add, "thieved" its a good way for some people to break who dont have the funds to otherwise persue, but its a destructive way across the board, digital will be as much a breaker as it will be a maker.....i cant wait until you grafted months on albums only to see sales not even cover ya rent.......but please remember to send me a copy. well no leave it ill download a copy from soul seeker, because my sister, her mate, her mates mum, her mates mums auntie, wants a copy to......Ah f**k it while iam at it iam doing a car boot sunday ill burn a few more copies, cheeeeers.

once again m8 you've hit the nail right on the f***in head :clap:
ouch!!!

[dirty_bass]

True dis.
When it becomes so prevalent, and all the artists we respect can no longer afford to make music any more.
We will all lose.

[Jay Pace]

i cant wait until you grafted months on albums only to see sales not even cover ya rent

Dj gigs still pay pretty well.

A lot of labels treat their records like expensive business cards or promotional material. Then they reap the rewards through the nights they promote, and through their artist fees.

MP3 is here to stay. Its going to be a painful few years until the distribution models catch up, but the talented and the organised will see it through.

People are willing to pay - but at the moment it is easier and more convienient to steal. This will change.

[networker]

True dis.
When it becomes so prevalent, and all the artists we respect can no longer afford to make music any more.
We will all lose.

at last people are startin to get the real drift of this thread

[Komplex]

Yeah so now that we've come to the realisation once again (again, and again) that nothing stops piracy (not mp3, not vinyl, not nothing), why not just let people choose to use whatever the fukc they want? and stop whining about the fact that some people don't like the same thing that you like... digital formats aren't the issue... get over it.