i don't really want to get too involved in this discussion as i really can't see any light at the end of the tunnel for it.
( we have been here many times this year )
some good points have been made here and there
but it's all very depressing really.
i think some of you guys need to lighten up a bit .
come on chaps......it's just a forum , if you want to change something then do it , and post it up here so people can see it and be encouraged by it.
new labels , new clubs , new artwork , dvd ideas , interactive music etc etc
all we do is bang on about mp3 vs vinyl or how things aint as good as they used to be these days. can we get over this already?

i think everyone needs to relax their opinions about what techno is in the first place. it's obvious that electronic music in general is feeling it's age and needs a bit of a shake up , but moaning about it will only slow the process down , as will spending time on internet forums discussing what we want to be doing , as opposed to just doing it and then sharing it with others:
"look what i just done" etc etc .............
as opposed to:
"the reason i'm pissed off today is.........."

there is plenty of humility here i think. yeah sure sometimes people get arsey and opinionated but then it is an ongoing discussion so that's bound to happen , and anyway, other people all over the world take their music very seriously
from classical to jazz to folk music to rockn'roll ,enthusiasts everywhere are the same , passionate.
we really shouldn't get so uptight about people being passionate there's nothing wrong with it , and there's nothing a little humour now and again can't cure.

"insert favorite joke here"

anyway what the hell do i know about it?
i'm too busy snorting ketamine at squat parties and dribbling on myself
apparently, according to one guy on here the other day.
something like that anyway. ( unbelievable!!!!he should be ashamed of himself)

so my point?
i don't have one , and you know what?
i don't need one , i just like to have discussions with people, to keep my mind sharp and to learn new things ,

now where did i put that 303?........

;)