the future of techno

[Jimfish]

yeah baby you like that?

[RDR]

yeah baby you like that?

Oh yeah! Uh Huh, Oh Yeah! Uh Huh!

[davethedrummer]

i don't really want to get too involved in this discussion as i really can't see any light at the end of the tunnel for it.
( we have been here many times this year )
some good points have been made here and there
but it's all very depressing really.
i think some of you guys need to lighten up a bit .
come on chaps......it's just a forum , if you want to change something then do it , and post it up here so people can see it and be encouraged by it.
new labels , new clubs , new artwork , dvd ideas , interactive music etc etc
all we do is bang on about mp3 vs vinyl or how things aint as good as they used to be these days. can we get over this already?

i think everyone needs to relax their opinions about what techno is in the first place. it's obvious that electronic music in general is feeling it's age and needs a bit of a shake up , but moaning about it will only slow the process down , as will spending time on internet forums discussing what we want to be doing , as opposed to just doing it and then sharing it with others:
"look what i just done" etc etc .............
as opposed to:
"the reason i'm pissed off today is.........."

there is plenty of humility here i think. yeah sure sometimes people get arsey and opinionated but then it is an ongoing discussion so that's bound to happen , and anyway, other people all over the world take their music very seriously
from classical to jazz to folk music to rockn'roll ,enthusiasts everywhere are the same , passionate.
we really shouldn't get so uptight about people being passionate there's nothing wrong with it , and there's nothing a little humour now and again can't cure.

"insert favorite joke here"

anyway what the hell do i know about it?
i'm too busy snorting ketamine at squat parties and dribbling on myself
apparently, according to one guy on here the other day.
something like that anyway. ( unbelievable!!!!he should be ashamed of himself)

so my point?
i don't have one , and you know what?
i don't need one , i just like to have discussions with people, to keep my mind sharp and to learn new things ,

now where did i put that 303?........

;)

[RDR]

I'd better get on with that
Electronic symphony using casio's, speak n spells and me watkins copycat...

Nice one DTD... nail,. head, hit , on , the you.

As usual.

Respect.

[Mindful]

I don't really feel like part of a community, still a bit like an outsider whose opinion or input isn't really necessary.

No way man to me your one of the people whos imput allways strikes a note with me.
Your opinion or input is very necessery to this place man imo



I could go on one on this topic cause I have loads of feelings on this but im going to restrain myself cause certain people have allready said along the lines what I could add.

I will say tho and echo what Henry has said and that is that this place could benifit from us all chilling out and stop taking it all so serius(alltho I take my music very serius personally)
We all like different ellements of music and disscussion and dissagreement is importent but not as importent as respecting other peoples takes on things.

Lets all have a group rub

[AcidTrash]

It's a dark day when DAVE isn't sure where his 303 is!! :lol:

[massplanck]

gay analogy i know but its like if you juggle you have to just let go and trust your hands to catch each ball. If you think too much about it you drop the balls - everytime gauranteed.

:clap:

Quote of the afternoon. ;)

[Jimfish]

dont, it made me cringe enough when i wrote it! ;)

[Sunil]

No way man to me your one of the people whos imput allways strikes a note with me.
Your opinion or input is very necessery to this place man imo

Thanks man. Good to see you back in here too Jimfish ;)

I know not everyone has been following techno as long as I have, and I know that there's others who have been following it for longer than I have. I guess I like to feel a lot in common with people here be it through shared opinions or experiences on the music, producers, records, or clubscene... things that make me feel that others share the same spirit within techno that I do too. This all came from somewhere, and I still have Chicago, New York, Cologne, Gent, Rotterdam, Brighton, Detroit, London, Stockholm or wherever! running through my techno veins as it were. It's all important, relevant, part of the equation, be it old or new. Rarely do I feel a unified respect of these sort of things, and that to me is a big part of the techno spirit.

Yeah, generally I like to participate here. I like talking about techno through the ages though, from the early days through to now.. the big picture. No head numbing evolution of techno conversations, because that hasn't happened yet, you talk about that stuff after the transition of where we're at now, or when those new defining records come along. Techno can't be forced forward through a thread on BOA, at this stage I think all it can do is change a bit, and hopefully for the better. I don't think it's all doom and gloom, but I think everyone needs to be quicker to sort the wheat from the chaff and to do their best to wholeheartedly support that, be it through buying the record, going to the gig (dragging your mates along!), reviewing the music, or even emailing that producer or label to say they like their music... every little bit helps these days, it really does. And if there's no great records out there, then no hassle, no-one has to pretend that there are.

Personally I think the message board thing is a hinderence in many ways, but still a bit of fun all the same.

[eyes without a face]

the thing with message boards is they dont convey the real meaning behind alot of posts, i can guarentee some of us on here would get on alot better if we could say these things face to face

[Martin Dust]

Face to face, people wouldn't say half the shit they do...

[dan the acid man]

Face to face, people wouldn't say half the shit they do...

yeah they would, smelly face :lol:

[eyes without a face]

Face to face, people wouldn't say half the shit they do...

well thats a personal issue for the people in question, whoever they maybe. i would have no qualms about saying anything to anyone's face in the context we are talkin about here, literaly unless the person was standing there with a gun pointed at me, id probably curb my words somewhat then

[Martin Dust]

What's the weather like up there ;)

[eyes without a face]

very warm, but dull and rainy too, not my favourite weather, i prefer it cold and rainy

unrelated but your System 23 has grown on me dude, props, sometimes these things take a while with me haha

[eyes without a face]

there should be an "ep" in there obviously hehe

[The Divide]

Back to the topic (which was titled the future but is more about whats letting this board/the techno scene down) ...

Firstly this board, I don't care too much about the threads which go on about 'next level' or new ideas because for me anyways, its not what I'm looking for in techno. If anything I would like the opposite and for things to step back away from busy drum based structures which simply accumulate then disperse. If there will be another revolution, it will be within the music and its makers itself and the only thing any forum can do is acknowledge this 'next level' and thats that. But I couldn't see any of that happening and don't really care if doesn't.

As for this form not been a strong enough community? I think thats in eye of the beholder really, I mean I know personally that my experience with this board proves otherwise. Shit Im even living with someone I met on this board. I have met some really good people on here (you know who you are) outside of the forum. I think most the people including yourself mark, know that setting aside all the cussin thats been going on there still is a good community and always has been

But...

Well my main gripe is the negativity on here. I don't really get it personally. I'm really happy about the way things are changing within the music scene. I mean when in history has anyone been able to make a track and stick it on t'internet and have it travel the world in a matter of seconds. I am actually hoping the digital thing really takes off. Right now, its in its baby stages and has its problems. In the long run I can see a complete overhaul of the current structure and that for me is exciting as it will knock down things I see as boundaries. I don't really see any need for quality control. Thats all down to those who play out/buy/download the music. I don't listen to what I don't like, thats my quality control. People need to face upto the fact that there are a lot of people out there trying to be an artist with software 'revolution' and all

Also the post locking thing as said previously is really pointless as its just leaving debates unresolved. The thing is by the time some people see some of these posts its too late as its locked. Its usually happening on some controversial thread about issues which are really important too (bar the occasional exception). This is usually down to a heated debate when people get angry and say some shit. Where theres passion theres anger, you cant separate the two. Most people see heated debates as a negative when all it is does is confirm that we are human. Locking posts just lets it all build up

Also I think the banning of people isn't always a good idea (unless its someone who's out to blatantly cause shit then theres no need in putting up with it). Some of the more interesting people on this board got banned, some of which really grew on me

So anyways, as for the future. Well, I'm feeling optimistic but I'm going to see Rob Hood dj tonight and thats what its really all about for me

[grain]

I'm really happy about the way things are changing within the music scene. I mean when in history has anyone been able to make a track and stick it on t'internet and have it travel the world in a matter of seconds. I am actually hoping the digital thing really takes off. Right now, its in its baby stages and has its problems. In the long run I can see a complete overhaul of the current structure and that for me is exciting as it will knock down things I see as boundaries. I don't really see any need for quality control. Thats all down to those who play out/buy/download the music. I don't listen to what I don't like, thats my quality control.

I agree...

I'm only new here... while I'd heard of this forum a long time ago, I only just got broadband, and I'm quickly getting sucked in.. It's only when you have personal internet access that you really get the benefits of the technology.... and it wont be long before absolutely everone has this... which is amazing and revolutionary and yes, certainly only in it's infancy...
But there is certainly bright futures ahead and.. - what's the title of this post? - The Future of Techno... that's it. I think a couple of heads went off on a slightly negative tangent there.. Voicing negativity about negativity?

I think the future of techno is bright (even the really dark stuff!) But it depends on people being creative, experimental, passionate, dynamic.. And it demands that those involved are positive and helpful, even when they need to be critical... Putting forward ideas and solutions, rather than simply voicing dissagreements and dissapointments...
I mean, obviously there are people out there making terrible shite that you wouldn't even call techno... and there's more and more people realising that you can track out a few loops on your computer and burn it to cd and try to call it music, but don't worry about them... If they're not being creative with it, they're not making techno!.... So they have nothing to do with the Future of Techno!... If you catch anyone at this, either ignore them or, if you think they just need a few pointers, say, "check out this music at htttp:// whatever is proper techno", and let them go on their way, knowing you just did something positive...

... but have no fear, there are people out there fighting the good fight, and the more shite music is out there, the more thier music will shine like diamonds in the rough... The Divide is right about the quality control.. YOU are the quality control!!

The future of techno? Sure, techno is the future - always has been, always will be.

[dan the acid man]

yeah, good points, especially the fact that the punters are the quality control, ive always said this, if you dont like it, dont buy it