Phil Neville For England- Please NO!!

**french_og** · 01-09-2005, 08:14 PM

On Skysports.com it said:-

Phil Neville is hopeful his experience will see him given the nod to start for England against Wales at the weekend.

I f****** hope not, i still haven´t forgotton that penalty he gave away against Romania a few years back.

F*** off you useless f****** MANC!!!

**Esox Lucius** · 01-09-2005, 08:16 PM

cant see him getting in, unless he has a seriously good season for us.

**nick_anarchy** · 01-09-2005, 08:22 PM

instead of who tho ??? gary ??

**djfase** · 01-09-2005, 08:22 PM

Hes steady thats about it

**basslinejunkie** · 01-09-2005, 08:33 PM

gary neville is injured or suspended for this game.

luke young should start at right back imo.

**dee** · 02-09-2005, 02:25 AM

england are shit any hows who cares

**basslinejunkie** · 02-09-2005, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by dee

england are shit any hows who cares

true!!

**lukekendall** · 02-09-2005, 08:27 AM

luck young is starting

and as for 4-5-1

sven you wanker, surly play carrick in that possition, he's used to playing there, thats his game not beckham for **** sake cant you leave him out for once you PRICK!!!!!!!!!!

WE DEF NEED A NEW GAFFER

i hope we lose and he gets the sack

**french_og** · 02-09-2005, 11:25 AM

I like the idea of changing the formation for once but surely Defoe deserves a chance, against teams like wales we should be playing 2 strikers and banging in the goals and Defoe is full of confidence and playing well. Get him in.

**lukekendall** · 02-09-2005, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by french_og

I like the idea of changing the formation for once but surely Defoe deserves a chance, against teams like wales we should be playing 2 strikers and banging in the goals and Defoe is full of confidence and playing well. Get him in.

I agree mate but surly if he does play 4-5-1 why the **** he is playing beckham in the role? it is the tactics of a guttless gaffer that is controlled by the captin and is scared to drop him

**french_og** · 02-09-2005, 12:56 PM

I don´t agree with Beckham being dropped, he is a class player and can play in the middle of the park as he has done for Real at time. I personally would prefere Gerrard doing the holding role, i know he does like to get forward but he is also a great ballwinner and has the disipline to hold and let Beckham and Lampard support the forward play.

Who would you replace beckham with? Because with all due repect to Carrick he isn´t as good as Beckham.

**Will** · 02-09-2005, 02:37 PM

Phil Neville, haha. Doesn't make much sense playing Beckham in the holding role, unless it's kidology, though of course Gerrard and Lampard have much more running in them than Beckham. Becks is no holding midfielder though, but playing people out of position is one of Svens favourite piss takes...

**nick_anarchy** · 02-09-2005, 03:16 PM

bekham can do so much work but ppl dont notice this ,... when he was at utd he ran his balls off he want always on the right .. he can sit in the middle and pick ppl out with his balls he can split teams apart .. he aint no holding player i know that but he will try and put in 110% i dont think england have a holding player do thay ??

phill will be covering for the injuryed gary no dout in that but im a bit unsure about the 2 centrel players rio & carrager thay were well shit VS denmark is king out ??

**Will** · 02-09-2005, 03:31 PM

I don't think Beckham has the same work ethic since he left Man U, the Spanish press likened him to Forrest Gump, running around, with no real purpose. Seems like he's more interested in winning free kicks by taking a tumble and taking them these days.

**nick_anarchy** · 02-09-2005, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Will

I don't think Beckham has the same work ethic since he left Man U, the Spanish press likened him to Forrest Gump, running around, with no real purpose. Seems like he's more interested in winning free kicks by taking a tumble and taking them these days.

yeh thats true .. but he didnt nee dto run around and real . with the players thay had he just needs to pass etc ..

but is their a player who is english who can play the holding role ???

**Will** · 02-09-2005, 03:49 PM

Butt perhaps, he did well in the last world cup... Parker, or maybe Carrick would be other possibilities. And there's always Gerrard.

**nick_anarchy** · 02-09-2005, 05:24 PM

butt is the only one .. none of the rest are holding players .. but butt has sort of droped since he left utd .. would he be able to fill the gap ??

**french_og** · 02-09-2005, 05:55 PM

Football at International Level has moved on from the old holding midfielder unless your playing 3 at the back. The time has gone when you could have the likes of David Batty sitting in there knocking sideward passes.

Gerrard would be perfect in there, he is awesome ballwinner, good in the air and a great passer and hif he did want to venture forward then surely there would be good enough communication with Beckham or Lampard to sit in for him.

Beckham Gerrard Lampard with Jo Cole and Wright Phillips does look like a real good midfield on paper, lets hope they can proof it 2mo by beating the Sheep shaggers!!!!

**jam** · 03-09-2005, 11:13 AM

Butt is past it the only player capable of playing that holding role for me is Scot Parker

the geordie wanker

**lukekendall** · 05-09-2005, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by french_og

I don´t agree with Beckham being dropped, he is a class player and can play in the middle of the park as he has done for Real at time. I personally would prefere Gerrard doing the holding role, i know he does like to get forward but he is also a great ballwinner and has the disipline to hold and let Beckham and Lampard support the forward play.

Who would you replace beckham with? Because with all due repect to Carrick he isn´t as good as Beckham.

not a better player but he is better at the holding role tho, he was the best player in the england team on the trip to america

he has not got as good long range pass than becks but has 2 great feet and is a much better tackler and reader of the game than him

beckham need to be played in the center and sven has to make a choice between him lamps and gerrard i reckon

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