most technically brilliant dj

**gumpy green** · 30-09-2005, 04:34 PM

im only playing son.....

dave clarke was the man who inspirred me to start mixin techno the way i do.

until then i was a turntablist full stop.

he gets a MASSIVE amount of respect from me for whats hes done in the past and how he influenced me in the beginning of me techno mixin.

But i honestly get more technical than him....ill stick up a video very soon to show.

I just think its sad that folks are still thinking them djs are amazing when they aint....not that i am just now... but i bet in 10yrs i will be on sum next level stuff.

party hiphop djs like vinroc are doing soo much more on the tables(they are really pushing the artform) and rocking a party at the same time...

**jon connor** · 30-09-2005, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by gumpy green

im only playing son.....

dave clarke was the man who inspirred me to start mixin techno the way i do.

until then i was a turntablist full stop.

he gets a MASSIVE amount of respect from me for whats hes done in the past and how he influenced me in the beginning of me techno mixin.

But i honestly get more technical than him....ill stick up a video very soon to show.

I just think its sad that folks are still thinking them djs are amazing when they aint....not that i am just now... but i bet in 10yrs i will be on sum next level stuff.

party hiphop djs like vinroc are doing soo much more on the tables(they are really pushing the artform) and rocking a party at the same time...

yea mate here you there fella dave clarke inspred me to mix the way i do like a fukin nut case hahahahahaha ............ no worrys grumpy bring on the video clip lets see wot you up to fella sounds interesting ;)

**gumpy green** · 30-09-2005, 04:43 PM

will do gotta sort me x fader first cause me snapped the pin the knob goes on..

have to super glue the fuker on once every week or so..

gonna have to see if penne and giles will sell me a new prong cause im not up for paying £70 for a new one when mines in almost working.

if i got time this weekend ill wap sum juggling with fx up for yaz to laugh at.

**fatcollective** · 30-09-2005, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by jon connor

mabey now he is old and past it a bit but lets not forget wot he has done in the past 9 bissiness seprate from actuall turntablism here i know that side of things is sketchy with him but still easy now dudes.... lets hold the tounge a bit on the slagging

im not taking the piss mate, but this really made me laugh man :lol: :lol: havent got a clue what your on about u crazy mutha bucka ;)

**gumpy green** · 30-09-2005, 06:24 PM

gonna busy this weekend so heres what i rattled up after work...

technicality needs to be pushed a hell of alot more tho....

http://www.diversefrequencies.co.uk/...znewjuggle.MPG

**Stella Boy** · 30-09-2005, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by gumpy green

gonna busy this weekend so heres what i rattled up after work...

technicality needs to be pushed a hell of alot more tho....

http://www.diversefrequencies.co.uk/...znewjuggle.MPG

but is it technically brilliant

**Xavi** · 30-09-2005, 10:38 PM

i know i'm jumping into the subject late , but what do you all mean by technical brilliance ... ??

is it the dj skillz on the turntables 2 or 3, , the mixer, versitality in using the effects , good eq , versitality in style , blending the elements togheter , choping, improvizing on the spot , being able to properly do what u wanted on the decks in the first place just by thinking about it ?

**fatcollective** · 30-09-2005, 11:53 PM

all of the above all in one ;)

**Rudi Schmulten** · 01-10-2005, 01:38 PM

Then Rudi Schmulten is here for you!

Mix coming soon.

**jon connor** · 01-10-2005, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by gumpy green

will do gotta sort me x fader first cause me snapped the pin the knob goes on..

have to super glue the fuker on once every week or so..

gonna have to see if penne and giles will sell me a new prong cause im not up for paying £70 for a new one when mines in almost working.

if i got time this weekend ill wap sum juggling with fx up for yaz to laugh at.

yea dude im aving trouble with the new pioneer 909 fuk there `s no room for ya fingers to bend that parameter pot ...... like the 600 you av plenty of room like, on the right hand side of the mixer to really bend some heads..but trying to pull off the same tricks on the 909 im doing all bloody sorts of acrobats to try get me hands in for manipulation....

( its like playing twister standing up)

for the price of this piece of kit pioneer could of made it a little bit bigger i hate these tiny little knobs they keep making ,i mean like a good women you need somthing you can grab old of with a firm grip on the old love handle`s give it some welly raahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaa yes baby! hahahahah :lol: better performance i say , :love:

**jon connor** · 01-10-2005, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by fatcollective

Originally Posted by jon connor

mabey now he is old and past it a bit but lets not forget wot he has done in the past . bisiness seprate from actuall turntablism here i know that side of things is sketchy with him but still easy now dudes.... lets hold the tounge a bit on the slagging

i mean clarke boy is an awsome jock but a nightmare in bisiness he`s expensive etc etc etc etc etc take the bisiness away and just look at his technical ability

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh! cup of tea please fella ;) cheers ears you nutter hahahahahah :lol:

im not taking the piss mate, but this really made me laugh man :lol: :lol: havent got a clue what your on about u crazy mutha bucka ;)

**FUSION** · 01-10-2005, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Rudi Schmulten

Then Rudi Schmulten is here for you!

Mix coming soon.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYY ALRITE RUDI! HOWZ YA BURNT BIT?

**TripleX** · 01-10-2005, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by gumpy green

gonna busy this weekend so heres what i rattled up after work...

technicality needs to be pushed a hell of alot more tho....

http://www.diversefrequencies.co.uk/...znewjuggle.MPG

good stuff dude :clap: :clap:

**MangaFish** · 01-10-2005, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by oldbugger

yeah deetron is amazing. still pretty shit compared to all these hip hop dj's though. put dave clarke in a dmc comp and he would get laughed at so hard.

But then i dont think many of the DMC DJs would beable to mix on 3 or more decks and keep all the tracks in time and create a flowing set.

hip-hop turnableism is only one side of being a technical DJ.

**MangaFish** · 01-10-2005, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by gumpy green

Originally Posted by Dustin Zahn

comparing electronic DJs to hiphop DJs in terms of skill is the stupidest thing I ever heard of.

have to disagree..

who said you cannot flip techno and juggle etc and get very technical..

just techno djs are lazy.

if you gave someone like dj craze a bass tone locked groove and a locked groove record i bet hed come up with some very good "technical" stuff.

I dont think they would personally otherwise they would have been using locked grooves long before now. Plus most of the beatmatching i hear from hip-hop DJs are only very approximate designed to last a bar or two at most. It takes a lot more skill to keep the tracks in time after 2 or so minutes as the BPM only has to be a fraction out and its noticable

**MangaFish** · 01-10-2005, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk

it's also about restraint. a good techno dj in command of tricks knows not to overdo it. an annoying dj, IMO, just scratches and juggles constantly...

spot on :clap:

**Rudi Schmulten** · 01-10-2005, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by FUSION

Originally Posted by Rudi Schmulten

Then Rudi Schmulten is here for you!

Mix coming soon.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYY ALRITE RUDI! HOWZ YA BURNT BIT?

Ola Fusion. I am in confused? My bits are brunt? Thanks for supporting my mix.

**gumpy green** · 03-10-2005, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Stella Boy

but is it technically brilliant

yes.

doing all that, with sum blendin mayhem, jammin fx, skracthing(and im talking about proper "musical" cuts, not the shite getting done by many metioned in this thread, think invisibl skratch piklz style) the odd funny trick, some smooth mixes, choosing good tunes that flow and work well with each other, jugglin, using samples and fx to remix tracks or add more elements etc etc makes a technically brillient dj.

thats what I want to see..

if your happy seeing someone just play tunes you like and blend em in to the last track over and over fair enuf......i want more from the artform and i will strive to do so and make others aware and hopefully do so too.

up to you, im gonna keep at what i believe in, one day ye shall see. ;)

**JamieBall** · 03-10-2005, 01:23 PM

With you on that, Gazzatron...

I DO know some folk who really DON'T like our style of putting techno together, though. For them it's about the progression of the music and record choice with the tunes being mixed seamlessly (read BORING) one after the other.

Quite a few techno heads don't like cut-ups, scratching etc but then I guess I'm not really a techno head - I'm a hip-hop head and I also apply these ideals to.. er... Making a ****ing HUGE NOISE !

In fact, in that respect, as you used to spin mainly hip-hop too, doesn't that make us the very 'hip-hop djs using techno tools' that apparently don't exist ?

Mind you, I've always relished the idea of not existing

**dan the acid man** · 03-10-2005, 01:28 PM

i think were all missing another good point in that, its nice to go out and see a variety of dj's not only playing different styles of techno, but also using different mixing techniques.

i like seeing one dj do smooth long mixes, then the next one maybe do more tricks, then another one maybe using three decks etc.

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