EBAY: People selling DJ's mixes...Right or wrong?

[The Divide]

just sent a message to the seller asking why he was selling one of my mixes on ebay :lol:

it wont sell ;) :lol:

[Stella Boy]

just sent a message to the seller asking why he was selling one of my mixes on ebay :lol:

it wont sell ;) :lol:

twatbags, not again :lol:

[FUSION]

this is well wrong as henrys not an overpriced corporate idiot. stealing off the underground is shit

[RDR]

I messaged him saying if he doesnt take em down ill be reporting him.

Cunt.

Thats why i did that...

[massplanck]

whats the difference between people selling mixes on ebay and people downloading peoples tracks without paying for them through soulseek et al?

[massplanck]

Sorry... i dont want a slap but i bet half the people who are getting their knickers in a twist about this have no problems d/l dave the drummer tunes for nothing thru soulseek.


Not taking sides or anything but i find it ****ing funny.

[Stella Boy]

it's probably the fact someone is making money from it which sticks in peoples throats

[massplanck]

it's probably the fact someone is making money from it which sticks in peoples throats

Whats worse people making some money from free stuff or people get stuff for free which they should b paying for.

So what ome dude get 20 euros for a mix. Doesnt matter that 20,000 people have ripped DTD tracks on their machines.

[massplanck]

sorry.. how come a thread where a producers isnt getting ripped of sparks so many 'OMG!!! and i cant believe it! replys when a MP3 debate usually ends up in deadlock or stoney silence from lots of people?

[dan the acid man]

i can sleep soundly knowing ive never downloaded illegally

[RDR]

whats the difference between people selling mixes on ebay and people downloading peoples tracks without paying for them through soulseek et al?

nothing - except i dont do that.

And whilst we are on the subject, whats the difference between that and posting mixes from DJs on the techno filez section of this forum..

Again

No difference.

[Tiddlypeep]

Just seen this post guys and I would just like to clarify that nobody from Refresh knew about this or are invovled in this in anyway!.

It makes me a bit angry that someone would use a mix we put up on BA for FREE to make profit out of it. Seems a bit said really.

Some people are twats really.

Will :)

[davethedrummer]

actually to my mind these days its all wrong......
mixes on websites too ( sorry guys but there it is)
it just encourages poeple to be armchair listeners
and what we need right now is positive action to keep the music alive.

this means BUYING the music you listen to
yes the buck DOES stop with you , not your mate or some twat on an internet forum you just heard about but YOU. ( all of us right?)

meaning .....if you like it and you want it then BUY IT.
any other way of obtaining underground music right now is undermining the whole scene for everybody.

right now everything is changing , the formats are changing, people are confused , etc etc .

so the way to act positively is to put your cash into the industry , and there's only one way to do that.

so anyway rant over.

i'm really fuming about this , firstly because those mixes were free and never intended for sale , also because they undermine anything i might have planned for release ( which i do in jan )

and mainly because the guy must be a really dozy c.u.n.t to even think about doping it in the first place.

i will check it out and make a formal complaint to e-bay through my management

[Martin Dust]

I disagree with Henry here, I download mixes and spend a lot more money because of it, there are also white papers that back up the theory/prove that people who download buy more music.

Of course you are going to get people who never buy anything but at least they are still listening and are probably more likely to go to a club than someone who doesn't download.

See you on Friday Henry....

[conflict]

i can kind of see where dave is coming from

i've really got into downloading dj sets recently

and i havent bought any rcords this year

i'll hold my hands up

i get my techno fix from listening to the top boys mixing it up, its become a 2nd hobby to me- if you know what i mean

but saying that my personal/finacial priorities have also changed this year

i do feel guilty for not putting some money back into the scene, and i bet there are plenty of people like me

[davethedrummer]

I disagree with Henry here, I download mixes and spend a lot more money because of it, there are also white papers that back up the theory/prove that people who download buy more music.

Of course you are going to get people who never buy anything but at least they are still listening and are probably more likely to go to a club than someone who doesn't download.

See you on Friday Henry....

yeah you have a point
but my real point was ,that if i was to release a dj mix , which amazingly enough is about to happen ,
(in fact we are planning to do a series of dj mixes from the collective artists)
would downloads of my set on the net for free affect sales of my specially mixed cd release?

i would take a bet and say yes they would

and that's why i'm getting heated about it.

to be honest loads of people have recorded me over the years and i never make a fuss about it , it does serve as good promotion for me of course and i have even downloaded some of my own sets to listen back to.

but there's a lot of dishonest people out there and it's really making me question the whole idea of free sets on the internet.

there's no way to stop it ( or regulate it ) i know , and that's a wind up too
i don't know what more to say about it really , other than this is my job , i need the money for my family to eat and that's a really big deal in my life as i'm sure you can imagine.

i'm not trying to pull heart strings here , there are many other musicians in the same boat , and protecting our music ( and our rights) has become a regular hassle with all the new technology.

sure, promotion is always good , but only for gigging these days really
and i would rather make music in the studio and earn from that than endlessly tour around the worlds airports and cheap restaurants and hotels
, screw up my ears , drink too much , and talk to my growing son on the telephone every weekend.

sure it's fun when you start , and don't get me wrong i do enjoy the playing records bit , but the travelling to be honest ,it sucks a lot these days.

and this is what is happenning. people still want to go out and party and dj's are still very much in demand , but producing the music is much less taxing on the body and the mind and i miss being able to do that and feel justified spending the time in the studio doing it.
these days i write tracks knowing that i'm not going to see any money from them , and that means time and effort in the studio that's almost going to waste. ( almost )

so you see the position here.
as much as i like to give things for free in a kind of karmic gesture
( believing in a rather naive way that it' a "good" thing to do ) , i'm beginning to come round to the idea that by doing that i'm really undermining my own income. and that's pretty stupid really.

my ten cents

[Barely Human]

these days i write tracks knowing that i'm not going to see any money from them , and that means time and effort in the studio that's almost going to waste.

[dan the acid man]

regarding free donwloadable sets, its a bit of a mixed one really, for me personally, i still buy loads of vinyl, even though i dont really dj much.

And theres loads of records iv'e heard people play in the sets ive downloaded, that iv'e gone out and bought after hunting them down for months, if not years.

But im dead against people selling these sets on for their own gain

[conflict]

actually fuk it

i've pretty much got every dj set going

ebay here we come

:lol:

[Si the Sigh]

:lol: