Transparent reverbs

[djTequila]

Man U don't even get a simple side chain 4 the comp/limiter :( Also somethin similar 2 Freeze track would b nice... Does it work well in Logic??

Dunno, I'm on a PC with 5.3 - no Freeze. It's a Logic 6 thing.

I DO get sidechains for the Logic compressors, expanders and gates (etc.) though. Which is lovely - you can reinforce sounds (like hi-hats) with gated reverb bursts while eliminating all mush. Apparently. It's on my to-do list, which is now huge! I finally have access to all these wonderful techniques I could only dream about with other soft sequencers. :D

try BBE maximizer even without much of it (in fact better if almost untouched) .. it does a little linear freq. correction clears and softens yer mid-range .. I don't really know 4 sure why but I have a feeling this will help... let us know

Cheers! I'll give it a try... It probably cleans up phasing issues by removing overlapping frequencies, which I think is what causes the ringing problems in cheaper reverbs.

I never really got much into timeworkz myself ... I guess I could get away with a Rverb by waves or somethin' by TC Works.. I think there is a new lexicon reverb plug in but I haven't tryed it

If you find it, let me know!

I feel ya m8 but I was addressing SX, which means insert processors step first in the chain...

Yeah yeah, but if you ONLY want the verb on yer drum, then an insert chain of EQ->Reverb will do ya! Especially if you're going to burn it down later. It's much easier to control.

Hardware mixer u get pad cut - gain - direct out - insert - phase inverter - Eq/ sends (this depends a bit on the mixer)... this was the way I've seen most mixers but hey there is no absolute rule, I certainly know a lot of brands do they're own magic ...

Seldom see phase inverters on mixers. Only time I saw one was on an SSL. But you'd expect that! Budget/project mixers don't normally have 'em...

Don't have much experience with digital mixers though.


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>Uhhmm U r right but I think U could spare a channel with the same sound send it 2 the efx send u want, have it in Pre-fade and in 100% wet mode as not 2 clash/ phase etc... with the original.. then send that 2 a group buss .. now just wack the group with what ever.. it's a messy work a round but should work me thinks :!: :?:

However, the return from the send will go straight to the output bus, with no option to divert it. Unless I missed it! (I was looking for this for ages in Cubase! It's why I switched over).


>>Say you wanted to put a phaser or something on it to add a little movement?


>render 2 wave.. new track and do the trick above... damn' u've got my brain in knots mate... ehehhe Luv a tricky subject that makes ya thing

Yeah, that'll work. But with an insert chain you can simply stack it on! No fiddlin'!

I love these kinds of problems. It's where I live!

>>It's a little odd to use a send at 100% - seems to me you'd get no level displayed in the channel mixer. (Is this the case? I haven't tried it).

Actually I'm probably wrong here. Logic didn't do that.

>>It's definitely a good way to use one reverb for several different tracks though... Pity you can't do that with the EQs as well.

>U'de send em 2 a group and eq ' em .. maybe even as an insert then a verb if u feel the need for that ... if the verb is 100% wet yer verb level will act as yer "mixing" level as well

True! SX really ****ed me over with groups... Kept mixing them up. Suddenly my kicks would be nowhere and my pads would be right at the front of the mix :x :x :x

>>I've often wondered what the actual difference is between EQing before or after a reverb... Is there a difference in the frequency distribution, or would the difference simply be in the number and type of phasing/flanging artifacts from the reverb process?

>It should b different as all freq interact, moreover on a verb.. still it will probably b very subtil...

See, that's what I think! And what I've experienced so far (see above post!) The only other difference would be in the proportional increase in the levels of all frequencies from the reverb and increases/subtractions from the EQ. If these don't match up, you might find your EQ being slightly stronger/weaker on cuts and boosts, overall, depending on position.

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Any other takes on this?

Tequila