final scratch load of old w*nk or touch of class

**Jimfish** · 15-07-2003, 08:53 AM

definitly handy tool though, im actually just sending cds over to staffan with all the up coming releases so he can do a mix cd on FS to go with a record we are putting out shortly. Dead handy for stuff like that, or maybe for putting mixed versions of all me new gear on my website (hurry up with that henrik!).
trouble is, i cant mix...
cant i have one that does the mixing for me too so i can just stand behind the decks doing hunky poses?

basically i think at the mo. it has more use behind the scences in the studios and what not. As you mentioned, 70% of clubs have either got shite everywhere or open booths or somthing so it is not quite suitible as yet methinks. And i guess the whole mp3 thing is a whole other issue.

**wojtek** · 16-08-2003, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Jimfish

basically i think at the mo. it has more use behind the scences in the studios and what not. As you mentioned, 70% of clubs have either got shite everywhere or open booths or somthing so it is not quite suitible as yet methinks. And i guess the whole mp3 thing is a whole other issue.

I've been looking into FS a fair bit, only for home use... as it works out a damn of a lot cheaper than a pair of 1000s

I can't see it replacing the trusty record box though.

**Antinoise** · 18-08-2003, 06:30 AM

Anything that looks forward and is innovative should not be dismissed. Techno is built on innovation… FS falls in that category.

As a technology its the shit.. I have it set up in the studio and it’s never crashed or faulted once. Its like anything else in the PC world.. you have to know the right gear and how to set it up or its not going to work. (Next person I hear saying PC's suck who is using a crap MBoard and stock ram, etc..is going to get the back of my hand!) Like any new technology, there are kinks to work out. It all just takes time to get over the transition pains. The unplug/plugging-in mid party is the the main issue. However in time, this (or a similar digital technology) will be the standard and the world will be a wonderful place where we carrying only carry a ?pod and a set of phones. (BTW, For plugging in - The best solution is to carry a minidisk with a opening track and plug that into a open line... that way you can _uck around setting it up while that strokes the crowd (and not have to worry about skipping the previous DJ's needel!)).

Beyond hardware, copyright issues are the biggest thing to overcome. In the best case world, there would be an iron locked unbreakable format that everyone could sell right from their own web site. It would be the “Perfect Buisness Model”. However, with MP3's as available as they are.. that model fails and… a world with FS installed in every club still using copyable mp3's would mean death to sales.

I think the music industry should invest all this money they are spending on lawyers to make that new audio format. I know 'anything' can be hacked and broken…. But….. if its made tough enough so that 95% of the people would stop from searching for that underground copy, I think it would be successful.

Hey Henry.. If you want to check out FS, next time your in Venice come by the old party pad (turned romper room) and check it out.

-G

**tioneb** · 18-08-2003, 08:36 AM

about setting up fs in clubs/parties i guess a good solution would be to buy fsbox separately, like they do for the records. that would allow the club to make some proper plugin of the wires, and the guest dj would only have to plug his computer on the usb and bring his records.

that would also allow all the "free soft addicts" to get the hardware they cant build themselves and get an illegal copy of the soft, so fs box would lose its anti piracy thingy.

about the problem of bringing laptops in parties, dave is right the comps are not designed for such environment, but its been many many years people use to bring laptops for live PAs so so i dont thnik they will stop doing this once FS is among us.

**Eddie** · 16-09-2003, 09:46 AM

Sorry to bring this back up, but after seeing surgeon using final scratch on friday i have to say it is a whole lot more than a vinyl replacement. The ability to edit tracks, specifically for mixes, the simplicity of accessing your "tunes" and to be able to que them up with the record that is already on the deck all adds to making a more exciting set. Surgeons set on friday was flawless, and i now believe that he should be show casing final scratch, not hawtin, who actually bored me when i seen him use it. As for the only being able to use two decks, i thought there was an option where you could overlay two (or more) tunes on one record, you would loose some of the eq control, but i am sure before long stanton will sort this out. I agree with the problems of piracy, because to be honest, unless i really liked a tune (this is supposing i had final scratch) i wouldnt buy it, i would simpley download it.

**Skarabex** · 16-09-2003, 10:30 AM

well...just somethings to say.
on FS you could do things that you can;t imagine doing on tts.
such as: looping chosen parts from the track; you don't need to be afraid of making scratches on the plate; very usefull to play your "own" productions (even if it's not pressed on vinyl) etc...

btw check this out ->> HERE!!!!&HERE!!!

I found it....really REVOLUTIONARY!!!!

**Eddie** · 16-09-2003, 10:43 AM

They look well smart the cd 1200's have they released a price yet?

**DJZeMig_L** · 22-09-2003, 04:24 AM

The mixer will b out feb.. probable price.. 1000 Euros/ USD

The CD Decks ... December ... 800 Euros/ USD!!

Z

**Antinoise** · 22-09-2003, 10:51 AM

Damm.. the Technics SL-DZ1200 look sick.. Plays CD's and MP3's..

Movie here:
http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/misc...eFrontDoor.mpg

With technics getting in the game... I think everyone has to face up to the fact that vinyl is entering the first phase of becoming the 8-track tape. I know vinyl purists will be kicking and screaming.... but.. that will be your downfall.. I pitty those who claim to live in the techno scene and yet hanging on to old ways of thinking.

The new business model will be selling mp3's off your own website to users for a buck... or .... Labels having monthly reg subscriptions for $20 and all releases are downloadable. The techno scene should be the pioneers of such ways of thinking instead of dragging its heals like the RIAA..

**The Overfiend** · 23-09-2003, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by Antinoise

Damm.. the Technics SL-DZ1200 look sick.. Plays CD's and MP3's..

Movie here:
http://www.dancefrontdoor.co.uk/misc...eFrontDoor.mpg

With technics getting in the game... I think everyone has to face up to the fact that vinyl is entering the first phase of becoming the 8-track tape. I know vinyl purists will be kicking and screaming.... but.. that will be your downfall.. I pitty those who claim to live in the techno scene and yet hanging on to old ways of thinking.

The new business model will be selling mp3's off your own website to users for a buck... or .... Labels having monthly reg subscriptions for $20 and all releases are downloadable. The techno scene should be the pioneers of such ways of thinking instead of dragging its heals like the RIAA..

:clap: :clap:

**relish** · 25-09-2003, 06:05 PM

ive had fs since it came out and i have to agree that the only probs with crashes was a dodgy power cable. It runs in linux so its basically bombproof and i even saw Paul Van Dyk do his entire set off one at Amnesia, Ibiza.

three cheers for FS :clap: :clap: :clap:

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