checked out the shure fella. i was thinkin of something a little bit smaller. its more for sticking in the bag and hookin up to my minidisc n go collecting samples in the city or wherever, just random sounds. wont be usin it for much else. dont mind spending a little extra either. told the guy in the music shop what i was after and mentioned the sm58 n he said id be better goin with one of the sony minidisc mic's as it comes in very low from the shure and would prolly hafta go through a mixer to get it at a good level. hmmm...???