"GREAT NEWS" FOR UK FREE PARTIES

[jon connor]

well well well has anyone seen the news or read the paper today wot the hell :love: apparently the goverment are to leaglize free parties why i dont know yet i need some more information.but i was having my tea and toast this morning before i came to work and it was on the news this is great news for uk free parties and my local area north wales........... my local area has a wealth of history of imense free parties at least 5 to 10,000 people raves back in the earl ninties and late eighties......... but due to north wales police devasting the parties by converscating systems and even building huge road blocks and bariers with tones of stone and rubble to party sites, these massive gatherings were lost in history. mabey now if this all goes through we may see a new rise in our uk free party gatherings and dance festivals :love: cool.. i see somtimes free parties as the back bone of the underground well for me anyway its where it all started , .

ok anyone else seen this on the news today .do you have more info ? let me no.

also another question i want to ask is do you think this is a good thing or bad .....because noing our goverment there must be somthing they not telling us ,or most of them are secret acid taking hippies in suits hehehehehehehehehehehe :lol:

let us guys.

[alsynthe]

foookin ell, and theres me thinkin there clamping down on them!!!

[schlongfingers]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...5/nlicen05.xml

[jon connor]

i no wot the hells going down ere i nearly choked on me toast when it came out total random in the the morning like

[jon connor]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/10/05/nlicen05.xml

cheers shlonfingers nice work :clap: :clap: :clap: pretty rapid to i only just posted heheheheheh.. im on me lunch break back soon to read it ;)

[alsynthe]

so basically there allowing them because they have found a way to tax them in licences, and if u dont have the sadi licences in future will will come down harder on the party and shut it down quicker

[xfive]

Whoop time to move to the UK. :lol:

[dan the acid man]

not as good as what i first thought. it says a maximum of 499 people can attend, and sounds like they will only give out licences to premises

[alsynthe]

not as good as what i first thought. it says a maximum of 499 people can attend, and sounds like they will only give out licences to premises

just apply for multiple licences 20 metres away from each other and call them seperate parties. ie multi rigged parties

[jon connor]

its a start fella....right who is with me lets crack open a can of stella or mabey a special brew coz this is great ..and a start in the right direction for our beloved sound of techno ........ yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :love: :love: :love:

cheers ears

A licence for raves with no chance to object
By Philip Johnston, Home Affairs Editor
(Filed: 05/10/2005)

Rave parties or festivals lasting up to four days and involving as many as 500 people able to drink round the clock will be allowed without the public having any right to object under the new Licensing Act, it emerged yesterday.



Council leaders called on ministers to rethink proposals that would allow temporary licences to be issued without taking into account the concerns of residents about noise or nuisance.

Only the police would be able to lodge formal objections - and then only on crime and disorder grounds.

At the same time, ministers are still resisting pressure from village halls and other small venues to remove restrictions on running occasional events without having to apply for full alcohol licences.

The Act, which comes into force on Nov 24, replaces legislation under which magistrates issue alcohol licences and councils give permission for public entertainment.

From next month, local authorities take full licensing responsibility, including issuing temporary event notices ('tens') to people who do not want or need a full licence.

The Government says it wants this to be a "ight touch" regime to minimise bureaucracy - but council chiefs fear it is too loose and open to abuse.

Under the new rules, each event may have up to 499 people, including staff and organisers, attending at any time and may last for a maximum of 96 hours. Any one venue is limited to 12 'tens' a year.

A Department for Culture, Media and Sport consultation paper says the new system is "intended to strike a balance between the rights of residents living close to premises where permitted temporary activities may take place and the desire to put in place a liberal and light touch regime".

It adds: "Only the police may object to the giving of a temporary event notice and then only on grounds relating to the prevention of crime and disorder.

"It is then for the licensing authority to decide whether or not the objection given by the police should be upheld.

"No objection may be given on grounds relating to the other three licensing objectives - the prevention of public nuisance [for example, noise], public safety and the protection of children."

The paper notes that "where a temporary event notice is given for the purpose of authorising sales of alcohol, the authorisation can cover such sales for 24 hours a day and a possible duration of four days".

The consultation over the new rules ends today but few are happy with what the Government is proposing.

Local government leaders say the laws will exclude the public from any say in whether temporary events should be allowed.

Small venues, such as village halls, complain that the annual limit of 12 'tens' is too restrictive and will stop many activities, such as regular quiz evenings and charity nights, taking place.

Tessa Jowell, the Culture Secretary, has said she intends to keep the limits set out in the Act but may be prepared to vary the number "if experience showed the existing limits were either unnecessary or not sufficiently restrictive".

Sir Sandy Bruce-Lockhart, the chairman of the Local Government Association, said councils were concerned that the Act would allow potentially disruptive events to go ahead with no input from residents or from councils.

"There would be no discretion to act in the best interests of the community.

"This new regime was meant to be about giving more power to the people yet local residents would not be able to lodge any objections.

"There is clearly something very wrong that needs to be addressed speedily."

At present magistrates can issue "occasional permissions" for the sale of alcohol at events and may attach any condition they consider fit.

The Government says the new regime will be "more streamlined", less bureaucratic and cheaper.

18 September 2005: Government bows to pressure for late-night drinking review
9 September 2005: Licensing laws and cheap drinks 'will boost binge culture'
23 June 2005: Village halls may get help to lift threat from new drinks law

[alsynthe]

like u said john it is a start

[jon connor]

I NO FELLA ........... my god this is wonderfull for the movment of techno great. :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Jay Pace]

I NO FELLA ........... my god this is wonderfull for the movment of techno great. :clap: :clap: :clap:

Hmmm

So providing you get permission from the owners property, you can have a party.

Deeply unsure of this. Cant see it over riding the CJB.

This is just a relaxation of venue licencing laws.

Don't want to be a damp squib but I don't think this will make any difference.

Partys are usually held on private property without the owners permission.

Time to make some farmer friends, I guess...

[RDR]

All that glitters is not gold.

I want to read the actual act, not a newspaper report.

[alsynthe]

agreed dodgy

[fresh_an_funky_design]

its in the telegraph, there pretty accurate with the news.

[RDR]

its in the telegraph, there pretty accurate with the news.

Not wanting to rain on your parade chief, but it is a NEWS paper we are talking about here, they dont exactly cover themselves in glory when it comes to the FULL facts or unbiased reporting.

[Technobitch]

we are still guna party either way! but its always nice to see an improvement in the law, although its bound to be dodgy........ all laws are!

[RDR]

You can be sure of that - it didnt affect us in a bad way before and it aint gonna now.

[slacker]

Time to make some farmer friends, I guess...

hehe, just wait until the EU removes subsidies-then the farming industry (what's left of it) will collapse, and farmer's will be queing up to allow anyone who gives em a few bob to use their land. I say again: hehe.

this licensing doodah does not mention anything about the CJA it's true, but presumably these temporary licenses mean that you could make an event and get a temporary license-which would mean it WOULD be licensed and thus not subject to the CJA. Now I need to check my facts on my printout at home, but we'll see. Also I'm not sure how easy it will be to get one of these licenses and how much they will cost, etc. They sound a bit like Public Entertainment Licenses but just a little less strict-still strict though and thus not the Godsend they might initially appear to be.

don't celebrate just yet...

sorry for the morose attitude but I more than a little involved with the movement and something seemingly as promising as this would be totally incongruous with the goverment's current attitude to raves.

BTW if anyone really wants to get involved then there is a EU wide protest against brutality towards raves in Strasbourg outside the EU parliament on nov 12th I think. there are some details on www.squatjuice.com.

looks cool.