yeah my mixer has bpm counter and most of the time i hit out hardstyle at 150bpm but i like to pitch it up, my technics only go to plus 8, i here yogi whats his face wouldnt play at venue if the decks dont go to plus 16, when people talk about bpms they r talking at 0% if i played hardstyle at 140 or less my granny would love it ! i dont think you can band a music gene by bpm's. hardtrance can b faster and slower than hardstyle depends at which speed it was written !