Live users: convince us why we should switch!

**tocsin** · 08-12-2005, 07:55 PM

It's only advantage is it's ability to play "live" with it, in the sense that triggering pre-recorded stuff on channels is really "live." But, nonetheless, outside from that, I can't see any reason to upgrade to it instead of the new version of Cubase. Hell, do you even need to upgrade to Cubase SX3? Either way, you'll find that you can compose a track in Live just as well as you could in anything else. It's just a matter of getting there. Thus, if you're already comfortable with one thing and don't want to relearn the wheel, stick with what you know, particularly if you will only be using it as a studio tool. But, if you want to play some stuff off of a laptop for some people, you will have much more freedom than you would in Cubase.

**tekkers** · 09-12-2005, 08:09 AM

yeap i agree

- as far as i know cubase is lighter on the cpu than live is as well - thus ya can get more vsti's and stuff running at once..

nuthin's ever perfect - horses for courses and all that.

**dirty_bass** · 09-12-2005, 03:28 PM

Live makes you work in a different way, so once you learn it, and there is so much depth to it, it pushes you in new directions.
It`s great for production, very intuitive, and very instantaneous, which is what you want when trying to translate your mind into sound.
It`s horses for courses, but if you are open to new methods and ideas, I would try it.

Or to put it another way.

I`ve been using bog standard sequencers and soft studios for years.
Logic, Cubase etc.
I jumped onto the soft studio thing when it kinda first happened.

For ages I`ve been told I need to check out Live, but I just wouldn`t have it.
Why learn something else new, what more can it offer me?

Eventually I was pursuaded, and so I got a cracked copy.
A week later I purchased Live 5.

**StoQ** · 09-12-2005, 03:58 PM

is new ableton compatible with VST System Link ? is live better for pre-programmed production than cubase?

**tekkers** · 11-12-2005, 10:38 PM

i think the easiest way to see if u like live is try the demo at www.ableton.com

i personally find it the best sequencer that i've ever used - easily.... but thats for me - just try as many ones as u can and pick what u like best..

**The Divide** · 12-12-2005, 02:09 AM

I feel like im missing out on something. I have been running live 4 for a while and to be honest I didnt like it as a sequencer, thought it was great for mashing up loops and mangling but for midi construction I found it really awkward.

**Miromiric** · 12-12-2005, 09:10 AM

not really nice for advanced sequencing. good for playing with your own loops though. i use it for producing all the time, in reqire with cubase.

**RDR** · 12-12-2005, 07:44 PM

The midi impimentation on live is a tacked on after thought.

The only reason to buy live is so that you can play LIVE.

period.

**dirty_bass** · 12-12-2005, 10:34 PM

I think the implemenatation on 5 is very good. No worse than any other sequencer now, just a different work method.
I`ve got the boxed version of live so I got the proper manual and the deeper I`m digging the more I`m finding. So no real problems with it at all so far.

**RDR** · 12-12-2005, 11:54 PM

Sorry steve, i dont see how with any stretch of the imagination you could call it good.

The window doesnt detatch, zooming is a nightmare, entering notes is slow and unco-operative. And i got the manual too in PDF.

the implimentation is awful compared to cubase, logic and even pro-tools does better as does fruity. its the worst of the lot.

But thats not the point - it wasnt originally written for that. Its a live tool. And i love it!

**dirty_bass** · 13-12-2005, 12:31 AM

I have still yet to find any problem using it.
It`s all about familiarity, and learning to work in a different way.
Cubase is a wank monster for beginners, I`ve tried to teach so many people on it, I only find it easy because of familiarity.
Now I find it stale, and boring and an uncreative environment to work in.
Logic is fairly easy to use, but I know some people who just can`t get their heads around it.
I`m making tunes in live far quicker, and with more creativity these days, than with any other soft studio..
Horses for courses, but more and more people are producing in live now.
I tend to flit about now, as I never get into a comfortable method then, and keep myself on my toes.
But hell, what do I know.

**xfive** · 13-12-2005, 12:45 AM

I dunno there has not been one thing MIDI wise that I've wanted to do that I couldn't do in Live...
I use it from start to finish on every track I do. Within the session, almost all of my tracks are MIDI, with the audio ones used mostly for routing.

**The Divide** · 13-12-2005, 02:42 AM

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

Sorry steve, i dont see how with any stretch of the imagination you could call it good.

The window doesnt detatch, zooming is a nightmare, entering notes is slow and unco-operative. And i got the manual too in PDF.

the implimentation is awful compared to cubase, logic and even pro-tools does better as does fruity. its the worst of the lot.

But thats not the point - it wasnt originally written for that. Its a live tool. And i love it!

Im glad im not the only one whos having problems navigating myself around it. :lol:

I will stick to Cubase, it may take longer but I feel theres more I can do with it

**tocsin** · 17-12-2005, 04:34 AM

From my minimal experience with it, navigion is the biggest hurdle. Figure that out, and there are no obstacles. If you like it more, go with it. I've used it myself in a number of live PAs with a group for triggering loops and kicks. Nice software for improv stuff.

**tocsin** · 17-12-2005, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by dirtybss

Logic is fairly easy to use, but I know some people who just can`t get their heads around it.

It's an RTFM issue. And, for those that go the pirate route, most don't have the ****ing manual. I've played with it on the PC and have found no advantage with it over my traditional environment. Ableton, however, is a different beast. Much more intuitive once you figure out that one hurdle I mentioned before. PArticularly for techno.

**BloodStar** · 19-12-2005, 09:36 AM

I will deffinitely give it a try because i would like to set up my own livePa and i dont know how to do it differently than with ableton livem laptop and controller.. i'm producing tracks with cubase sx and as i reached the point i'm familier with it, i like this software a lot and dont want to change it. for playing will have to use ableton.

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