Live PA's

[crime]

you can do it on the 4000 but not the 2000.... you could assign the same sound to every pad, but you would have to tune them all seperatly...

[Jimfish]

yeah im defo gonna get it out.. Ive heard a few bits other poeple have done on em and they do have a very 'tight' sound - i think ill find a way of integrating it into the studio and getting used to it to start wiv..
cheeers you boys

[DJZeMig_L]

right maybe that was it .. but i gotta somethin' on the back of my mind about mapping a sound cromathacly


Z

[koala]

you can do it on the 4000 but not the 2000.... you could assign the same sound to every pad, but you would have to tune them all seperatly...

Pressing the 16 level button will open a dialog box and by choosing note variation, you will spread the sample over the pads. It is possible to choose the attack, decay and filter to be spread around too. The decay option is very good for making livelier hihat lines etc. You won't need an open and a closed hihat, just use one long one and vary the decay. The filter-thingy is useless, because the filters on the mpc are crap.

One fun thing is (with a small sample) using note variation and then pressing the repeat button down. This way you can use the mpc as a sort of a synthesizer. Try using different time signatures too. With a 32nd(third) you can even create pads. If you decide to use a longer sample, I'd advice you to not to have the sound in a polyphonic mode, since there will be loads and loads of sounds creating the longer sound. I prefer the mono-mode anyway with this working method.

I like the mpc vey much thank you.

[DJZeMig_L]

hey,

that's what I call an entrance!!

Thanks 4 yer insites... Mark go and check it out... like I said I kinda had a feeling of having donne something similar long time ago!!

Thanks Koala,
Z

[The Divide]

I once saw the Holy Ghost live P.A. I was convinced they had the full studio with them there on the stage, couldnt beleave the amount of kit they had. I have no experiance in P.A's but I will learn this shit some day, ineteresting topic. Me's going to study it 8)

[Rios]

We (Vincent de Wit and me) use a Yamaha RS7000, 1 or 2 Yamaha SU700 a Xone464 mixer, Alesis Ineko and an Alesis AirFX
Vincent plays on 2 SU700's en I play on the RS7000. Each plays his own tracks, in turns, mixing the 2 styles together. I concentrate on my own stuff and my mate on his stuff. One tries to continue with what the other one was doing, pushing it further every time. There's no planning at all before a gig, just who's the one to start the set.

I think it's much easier doing it with 2 instead of doing it alone. When you play alone, you will always have 1 particular sound, your own. It can be fabtastic, but can get boring. With 2 you can combine and make a set more interesting. I make stuff that my mate never would make and vice versa. Combine that and you have something that can be interesting.

We like it this way because it's flexible. We can do everything we want, improvise, extend, remix etc...

The RS7000 is used in pattern mode - 16 midi tracks per song, cutoff, diff. filters, mute/unmute, fading and combining tracks.
The RS7000 has a warm, very pure sound.

SU700's: loop-based. This machine has a more metal sound, different as the RS700. It can sound really dirty, has nice LFO's and a few good efx.

Machines are synced with eachother with midi.

For us this is the best setup. Setting up@ a gig only takes 15 minutes. Not too many cables and it always works. Never crashes.
The only thing is that you really have to learn how to play your tracks and improvise live.

In the beginning we took half the studio with us, but there's always something tha can go wrong of something you forget to connect.
Too much hassle.

Of course every liveact has it's own solution.This is just one of many. :roll:

[djTequila]

Remember when playing live to take a backup - especially if you're relying on a PC. So, bring along a portable MD, or a CD, or something you can plug into the system and press 'play' if things go pear. There's nothing worse than 30+ seconds of dead air while you reset your machine...

And I HAVE seen this happen!

Traditionally, getting a hardware sequencer or 'groove box' type device - Roland and Yamaha do good ones - is seen as the stable way of doing it. Hardware sequencers are far more bullet-proof... Apart from drums they generally have crap on-board sounds though.

Not that you'll be using them. You should be able to get away with a groove box, a multi-timbral synth and a sampler. And a mixer.

Yet another way to do it is to bring in two impressive looking keyboards, and a DAT/MD/CD. And a mixer. Play your tracks off tape/CD, and add a few pads, tunes, arps, etc. over the top.

Again, I've seen this happen! Not really very 'live' in my book though.

T*

[Jimfish]

yeah that sound like the one..

perfect for me cos im not really interested in the tunes i just want to stand up there looking hot in front of hundreds of adoring fans..

i think the most important thing is to make sure you PRACTISE... practise your hunky love-god poses that is so all the ladies go weak at the knees!

*ahem*

rather worryngly i know djs that really do behave like that!

[Metadog]

as Mobile Dogwash we have taken the easiest option, which is only half live really, but it is the best or only way of presenting our tracks live as a whole that we've got right now
using an eight track hard disk recorder we record onto paired tracks - 1 & 2 and 3 & 4, playing the finished tunes from a pitchable cd deck onto tracks 1&2 for the first tune, 3&4 for the second tune, and so on ... synchronising and beat matching them like you would if you were mixing records ... we then run this thru a dj mixer to be able to layer the tunes up live and cut it up proper techno style
i'm more than loath to take our kit out live, especially our 02/R digital desk
as far as i see it most punters would not know the difference and as long as it sounds good they are happy
i'd like to make it more involved live for us, but we have only got a limited amount of time to spend and i'd rather be working on a new track than anything else so ...
we had a power out about ten minutes into a gig on new years eve - if we had all the studio out and i had got to reboot and load up all our kit i reckon it would have taken a lot longer than the minute (or was it three hours - certainly felt like that at the time) it took to get things going again ;)

[jake]

its all about octave one live!!!!!!! mpcs - live keys - drum machines and the burden bros!

[messyfuture]

my set up is really quite simple and maybe not completely live

We use a laptop running sx with all of our tracks sequenced out and then we right extra 909 patterns ontop of the tracks,
the 909 is seperated out into a mackie 1604 and we have compression, fx and a sherman filter bank.
The output from the mackie is then sent into a djm 500 with the laptop's audio in another channel.
Its handy cause there is two of us and it gives us both something to do.
one person on the djm and the other on the mackie with th fx and that.
We only played live for the first time in about three years so i'm looking to expand what we do on stage with software etc, some really good ideas here though.
The first time i played live i had an atari st with me playing loops from my sampler

[DJZeMig_L]

I still Think MPC + Hardware sampler with each audio track (looped) from the original song plus one or 2 synths + mixer does the trick so nicely!! :)

Z

[Jackblack]

Yamaha SU10 mini sampler, mint, boxed, instructions, available for £100 if ya need on:
sterlzuk@yahoo.co.uk
Cheers!

[Buttman]

Remember that hardware is often stolen at airports so try to make it as portable as possible and bring as hand luggagre.

In other words: Laptop+midi controller (e.g. Midiman Oxygen 8)

[DJZeMig_L]

U can always get' em 2 rent stuff... thus bringing only Zip Drives!!

Z

[Jimfish]

yeah, im working on mine at the mo using laptop, MPC, midi cont. & FX - i can fit it all into hand luggage which is sweeeeet

[Jimfish]

U can always get' em 2 rent stuff... thus bringing only Zip Drives!!

Z

ive heard a few nightmare stories of people turning up to gigs and being supplied total shite equipment though :(

[BloodStar]

:lol: about rent the stuff for LivePA,.,it sounds like a joke.In my country it"s just a illusion. No equipment like this is for rent, and the club's boss don't care about your f*ing PA.. :lol:

[DJZeMig_L]

Well U can always try... Make sure U call 2 days b4 and check if the equipment checks out...

Have U looked into the all new MPC100??

Z