VINYL AND DJ'ING.. quote by Fabio

[Si the Sigh]

There is no escaping the digital revolution as burning mp3s to CD move in and vinyl begins to move out, but Radio 1's D&B DJ Fabio is a man that prides himself on cutting dubs. It's a serious issue for him, something which he feels very strongly about:

"The way I look at it, if I pick up a pack of CDs I don't feel like I'm going to work. I feel like I'm just going out to have a piss about to be honest. Don't get me wrong, it's a cheaper option but when we were growing up, you saved your last penny to cut a dub, and I find it funny when people say...'ahh it's expensive'...its not that much more expensive than it was 12 years ago and you know, we survived it, you would spend your last penny on getting dubs cut and now you can burn something on a CD. I have seen big DJs do it and fair dos to them, because I would play a CD if I haven't got time to cut it, but for my whole set to be played from CD- I'm not in it, I need to feel that I have got my record box to carry, that's got 60 dubs in there that weigh 23kg, almost breaking my back carrying it, because its work innit."

All in all, Fabio doesn't mind if DJs play CDs but the problem comes in the morality of it all when a big DJ, getting paid copious amounts of cash, plays a whole set of CDs.

Moreover, when the crowd fail to recognize who you are all because you have turned up with a CD pouch rather than a record bag, that's not a good look!

"People are like, where's the DJ? Where is he? You walk into a club with a record bag, everyone knows it you, if you're carrying you record box there's no mistaking it, but you walk in with a CD pouch and you could be anybody. You could just turn round and say I'm Fabio you know, it's just taking away the real meaning behind the music. But I can turn round and say this and it doesn't mean anything cuz in five years time there could be no vinyl anymore and we've gotta be prepared for the change, because that's the way technology is going anyway."

[Miromiric]

what a bunch of baloney.
and now back to quadriplegic midget in bikini.

[Miromiric]

and may i add

[Si the Sigh]

Judging by his comments he's just saying that it feels to HIM like he's not really doing it right, because of what he's used to when DJ'ing. Not casting judgement on what counts as real DJ'ing in terms of all DJs. Maybe he's a little frightened of change...?

[eyeswithoutaface]

Moreover, when the crowd fail to recognize who you are all because you have turned up with a CD pouch rather than a record bag, that's not a good look!

"People are like, where's the DJ? Where is he?

haha brilliant

[Miromiric]

at the end of the day, its all about being recognized in the crowd and giving out highfives or good, old signatures.

[TechMouse]

Well, not all of us have cushy Radio 1 jobs though, eh?

Yes, in the past people may have saved their last penny to cut a dub, but now we don't have to.

In the past, people had to have limbs amputated because of minor infection. I don't see people clamouring to get back to those good old days... I bet he's got a mobile phone too... Perhaps he ought to jack that in, because back in the day people had to make do with phone boxes, and they survived that...

Also, might I add, it's easy to play a whole set of brand spanking new vinyl each week when you get sent hundreds of the buggers in the post day in day out - as I'm sure Fabio does. For some people, staying upfront means playing CD-Rs from mates.

[MARKEG]

what fabio says there is what i thought first of all when i realised what was going on. but over the last year my thoughts have changed alot. i don't totally agree but i do sort of.

i see his point about not feeling like you're working, not feeling real. coming in with a cd pouch really doesnt feel like work. or being real. half of this whole djing thing for me has been about carrying that god-damn bag everywhere for years. but hey, perhaps we should see it as a good thing that we don't have to carry the bag, but i just cant.

i love technology. i hate cd's. i feel great spinning records. i feel fake spinning cd's. i want the real product, i want to have searched hard on the net, i want to buy it and wait 3 days for it to come, and then open the package and smell it. listen to it. i also want to take a quick journey to my local record shop, chat shit to the guy behind the counter and laugh at everyone's jokes.

vinyl will not die. it's gonna take me a long time to get used to the changes, i'm really trying hard, but i think there are always gonna be those of us that love the real deal.

[dan the acid man]

i think alot of us feel the same way if were honest, i know i do.
i know in a way its keeping hold of those romantic notions, packing a record bag full of records, carrying it around all night, flicking through the records, taking it out of its sleeve, making sure your putting the right side on the decks.

i dont see whats wrong with enjoying holding onto all these things.
i dont snigger at anybody wanting to play entire sets with cd's, but i know i wouldnt want to do that.

[FIK]

A lot of dj's switch to cd's, ableton, final scratch, etc because they are fed up carrying their bags........... You've got best damn job in the world and you get paid well for it. If carrying a few bags around is too much to ask

[dirty_bass]

It`s nothing more than nostalgia, and resistance to change, all us old ****s need a kick up the arse.
The medium is irrelevant, as long as you can do the job with it, and it`s good quality.
Who cares if it`s some heavy smelly bit of black plastic or a shiny metallic zip drive.
And fabio talking about nobody knowing who the DJ is and that it`s taking the real meaning away from the music, what? you mean it`s not boosting your fragile ego?
People should be facing the speakers and dancing to the music.
Who cares what it is done with as long as it is done honestly and with passion.

It`s like artists snarling at each other over whether acrylic or oils are true to the spirit of painting.
tosh.

[lunatrick]

you don't feel like you're working unless you're carrying around a bag of concrete? be serious :lol: lets be honest top jocks probably get their bags carried for them anyway.......

I don't see any difference between top people getting paid wads of cash to play a load of free 12"'s or a load of free cd's...whats the difference? However the fact that D&B more than any other genre controls new music through the use of dubplates probably has got something to do with his comments....not very easy to control the burning of cd's is it? and if you don't have exclusive music to offer..well what have you got? not a lot....incidentally not a dig at fabio as i quite rate him as a dj. I think he's probably just worried about how the changes will affect him, but in reality things will just stay the same......house dj's switched over to cd ages ago....that scene still seems quite healthy to me.

[lunatrick]

tosh.

great word. and I agree who cares? if you've got some talent / skill then the medium is irrelevant

[holotropik]

I have noticed that the music is getting better because of CDs/MP3 etc. There is now the ability to produce and go for the real low thick frequencies and absolute clarity mi/highs that are not well translated on vinyl. For my ears, I cant stand the flat sound of vinyl anymore.

The rest is all about the DJ ego....which we know is over-rated anyway :P

[anx]

i love technology. i hate cd's. i feel great spinning records. i feel fake spinning cd's. i want the real product, i want to have searched hard on the net, i want to buy it and wait 3 days for it to come, and then open the package and smell it. listen to it. i also want to take a quick journey to my local record shop, chat shit to the guy behind the counter and laugh at everyone's jokes.

vinyl will not die. it's gonna take me a long time to get used to the changes, i'm really trying hard, but i think there are always gonna be those of us that love the real deal.

now this deserves to be quoted.

exactly how i feel man. thank you

[DJ Asylum]

its all about opinion.

My opinion (for what its worth :lol: ) is that until i have that tune on vinyl i aint got it, i have hundreds of tunes on mp3, have cd decks... but still dont count having the tune until its in that record box.

Like Mark said its the time spent hunting for it, then waiting for it to come etc. The thrill of the chase kinda, its all too easy to just sit at the computer, d/l a tune, burn it then bobs ur aunty.

like i said, just my honest opinion. ;)

[dirty_bass]

What if you buy the wav fule direct from the artist?
What does hunting and waiting and sweating and pouring over your chosen medium that holds the music have to do with the music itself.
Music is soundwaves, created, generally by a vibrating speaker cone.
All the other stuff is fine, but it`s geek stuff, same as collecting starwars figures, or my little pony, or trainspotting.
Techno is supposedly the music of the future, we are meant to embrace technology.
You don`t hear this from a lot of other scenes in dance music, who tend to drool over the music, more than the tools, they have seemingly embraced new technologies pretty easily. It`s fairly embarassing really.

[davethedrummer]

it's all blah blah really

yeah cds don't feel " real"
but thats because the punters are still getting used to them
so are the djs

laptops look even more fake
but soon people will realise that they hear much better music live now .
it just takes time for people to understand the skill elements involved.

records are obvious , everybody knows how a record player works and how hard it is to mix good in a club.

but friday in edinburgh my last tune was on cd ( a new unreleased acid track )
and the place went mad and i really don't think anyone was bothered about where the music was coming from as long as it was loud and it didn't stop.

[rhythmtech]

couldn't agree more.. i've been using ableton at gigs for 2 years now for live & djing. i dont think anybody really cares as long as the sounds are good. and to be honest dragging a laptop/pc, desk, midi controllers and all associated cables/plugs feels like as much work to me as dragging a bag of records around.

[jimmy west]

no one has mentioned what the crowd wants i know on my behalf its more visually pleasing to me to see djs on vinyl as it looks and adds to the whole experinece of goin out to a party or club i ve got nothing against cds as it is good for the dj to be bangin out the freshest tunes theve just created but we dont want to be goin down the road of watchin one man behind a laptop playin with live but with the exception of an inventive pa or in conjuction with vinyl