Quote Originally Posted by tocsin
Ritzi, the last time I was in the Netherlands was about 2 years ago.
Yeah I had a hunch abou that.

Masters of Hardcore still seemed to be packing out arenas. Q-Dance had the largest and most populated stage at Mysteryland.
MOH, Qlubtempo, Qlimax and all those Q-Dance productions all have the same crowd, meaning people who are fans of Q-Dance. It's not really about the music played over there. Q-Dance always attracts a kind of public... The kind that Akkachar really discusts. :eyes:

My personal meaning. The real Gabber scene is allready gone for years. There are no real gabber clubs anymore like the legendary Rotterdam club "Parkzicht". OK 2 years ago ID&T did a Thunderdome reunion party in Amsterdam in October. The place was packed... The funny thing was they did an oldschool hardcore stage and the so called modern hardcore stage. There was a total difference, and also a lot of difference in crowds. You could really see the changes for the past 15 years.

I would say that scene is too focked up to really call it a scene.. It's more hooligans and skinheads now, then people who just want to go to a party to have fun.


Trance was the shit I heard bumping on the radio/television.
The last Amsterdam Dance event this year in october Trance was in minority. I've met a guy from New York who was looking for interesting Dutch Trance artists. He didn't succeed because there where non. OK there was Paul van Dijk and people like Katana. But he already know these people for years, and already boked them because he doesn't know any better... Also Duncan from ID&T made a statement that the big trance DJ's are way over there head now considering themselves as popstars, refusing to play with other more little acts, and only want to play parties for 15000 people and more. . So I wouldn't want to call that a scene anymore. That is also the main reason there are no real trance club nights anymore, because it's all too expensive now.


So, hell, maybe minimal has gotten some more attention. But, I'm just having a hard time swallowing that the successful ID&T norms have taken a backseat to it in sales/popularity there recently.
It's radical times mate. Who knows what will happen next.