Quote Originally Posted by Ritzi
MOH, Qlubtempo, Qlimax and all those Q-Dance productions all have the same crowd, meaning people who are fans of
Q-Dance. It's not really about the music played over there. Q-Dance always attracts a kind of public... The kind
that Akkachar really discusts. eyes
Fine. But, are they still moving more units and heads than "minimal?"

My personal meaning. The real Gabber scene is allready gone for years. There are no real gabber clubs anymore like
the legendary Rotterdam club "Parkzicht". OK 2 years ago ID&T did a Thunderdome reunion party in Amsterdam in
October. The place was packed... The funny thing was they did an oldschool hardcore stage and the so called modern
hardcore stage. There was a total difference, and also a lot of difference in crowds. You could really see the
changes for the past 15 years.
I would say that scene is too focked up to really call it a scene.. It's more hooligans and skinheads now, then
people who just want to go to a party to have fun.
Same question as above. I don't want to get into semantics over what people might consider "gabber" so we can just call it "hardcore" instead. Third Movement, Enzyme and Genosha have had no problems quickly running through their presses. Plus, I know the TOA guys play some fairly large "hardcore" parties in the Netherlands still. Minimal techno is selling more units and bringing in greater turnouts?

Seriously, I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around that one. Not saying it isn't true. But, I want to make sure were using the same measurement.