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    Techno is techno is techno, i can't see why you'd label it something else just because the room next door is running another stable.

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    Well, I think it has fallen into being called hard dance due to the hard dance big names (shandy fartley, fergit etc) courting the london acid sound and artists.
    So the music got absorbed by bigger names in the hard dance scene, and therefore associated to it.
    Plus I also think later releases from some of the old acid techno mafia have actually pandered to the hard dance sound to a certain extent.
    I`m not really sure if any of this matters, the idea of this type of music is just to get people jumping about, so moving into the hard dance arena you are gonna be presenting yourself to a more high energy crowd anyway.
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    i also think it's kinda schranz. but what's about 65D Mavericks??? typical london techno or just outstanding?

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    been listening to one of the forementioned`s set last weekend and it sounded like hard"house" / harddance with technocuts and mixing techniques to me tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buttman
    I never heard it but my prejudices say it is mindless bang bang 145BPM music, an English version of Schranz..

    acid techno an english version of shranz???? i think not

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    there is definelty a stigma associated with acid techno in some circles, which is so annoying. to me its just another sub genre such as tribal, funky etc.

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    let me put it this way: there is good acid techno and then there is london acid techno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miromiric
    let me put it this way: there is good acid techno and then there is london acid techno.
    well i just like good acid techno, no matter where its from and who made it, and some of my favourite acid techno tracks have come from the london collective.

    but its all just opinions about music at the end of the day.

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    i forgot to add IMHO ofcourse
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    i did not realize there was a collective, i just thought it is a silly name of some subgenre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rotten
    but what's about 65D Mavericks??? typical london techno or just outstanding?
    I was just about to say the same thing

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    next time u r the first, mate! :blush:

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    I would say acid techno (london techno same thing) is a crossover between trance/acid/hard house and techno. I wouldn’t call an acid techno track techno because its acid techno, its as simple as that really. Seems there is a lot of people on here who call acid techno techno when techno is Ben Sims, Tanaka, Ruskin, Mills, Surgeon whatever

    It would make more sense to call 65D mavericks london techno than calling acid; london techno imo :lol:

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    Why are people even bothing to discuss this? Is anything you say on hear going to change anything in the way of genres and sub genres? Isnt it all just music??

    "My techno is not the same as your techno because techno techno came from my mums arse hole, and your techno, which is actually called "techno techno techno", is only played by dj's with Y-Fronts on their heads, inside a very large dishwasher. Oh, and dont get me started on Techno Techno Techno Techno, because no-one overseas gets it because they wernt born in pontyfract. I think thats why it gets pushed in with vocal house because some guy who makes house was born there."

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    Quote Originally Posted by IQ
    Why are people even bothing to discuss this? Is anything you say on hear going to change anything in the way of genres and sub genres? Isnt it all just music??

    "My techno is not the same as your techno because techno techno came from my mums arse hole, and your techno, which is actually called "techno techno techno", is only played by dj's with Y-Fronts on their heads, inside a very large dishwasher. Oh, and dont get me started on Techno Techno Techno Techno, because no-one overseas gets it because they wernt born in pontyfract. I think thats why it gets pushed in with vocal house because some guy who makes house was born there."
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    :lol: IQ mate, you should be on stage!!

    I downloaded a couple of DAVE the Drummer sets a while ago and, to be honest, they did sound hard housey to me. I think it´s the bassline. It just doesn´t sound "right" for techno. Kind of like with Some Mauro Picotto tracks - even if it´s a good track you can still hear that he is primarily a hard house / trance DJ, and that he produces from that angle. The tracks are tough, acidy, techy etc, but with a kind of bouncy bassline which does remind me of hard house.

    I think Mark can probably add to this, cos he´s played techno at club nights organised by hard house organisations. Did he have to alter what he played to fit their sound more? Did he play stuff with a different b-line, to fit more into the hard house sound? I don´t think Slinky would appreciate if you dropped some Jeff Mills...

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    what i think everybody is forgetting is that the hardhouse similarities only cropped up the last few years. i personally think that hard house has been moving towards the techno sound rather than the other way around. look at people like jamie taylor - considered a h/house dj but his productions are becoming slammin techno.
    and either way WHO CARES. Techno is evolving in new directions finally. I dont care what anyone wants to call the sound i like... cause i like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IQ
    Why are people even bothing to discuss this? Is anything you say on hear going to change anything in the way of genres and sub genres? Isnt it all just music??

    "My techno is not the same as your techno because techno techno came from my mums arse hole, and your techno, which is actually called "techno techno techno", is only played by dj's with Y-Fronts on their heads, inside a very large dishwasher. Oh, and dont get me started on Techno Techno Techno Techno, because no-one overseas gets it because they wernt born in pontyfract. I think thats why it gets pushed in with vocal house because some guy who makes house was born there."
    hahaha, classic :lol: :lol:
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    Quote Originally Posted by IQ
    Why are people even bothing to discuss this? Is anything you say on hear going to change anything in the way of genres and sub genres? Isnt it all just music??

    "My techno is not the same as your techno because techno techno came from my mums arse hole, and your techno, which is actually called "techno techno techno", is only played by dj's with Y-Fronts on their heads, inside a very large dishwasher. Oh, and dont get me started on Techno Techno Techno Techno, because no-one overseas gets it because they wernt born in pontyfract. I think thats why it gets pushed in with vocal house because some guy who makes house was born there."
    Steady on All, its a discussion forum, people tend to discuss things on them

    :lol:

    I dont see why this subject winds you up so much when you dont even like much techno. Well not the 'real authentic 100% genuine' techno that only I know understand being illuminated and at the 33rd degree of the society of techno

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    Quote Originally Posted by teknorich
    :lol: IQ mate, you should be on stage!!

    I downloaded a couple of DAVE the Drummer sets a while ago and, to be honest, they did sound hard housey to me. I think it´s the bassline. It just doesn´t sound "right" for techno. Kind of like with Some Mauro Picotto tracks - even if it´s a good track you can still hear that he is primarily a hard house / trance DJ, and that he produces from that angle. The tracks are tough, acidy, techy etc, but with a kind of bouncy bassline which does remind me of hard house.

    I think Mark can probably add to this, cos he´s played techno at club nights organised by hard house organisations. Did he have to alter what he played to fit their sound more? Did he play stuff with a different b-line, to fit more into the hard house sound? I don´t think Slinky would appreciate if you dropped some Jeff Mills...
    eh ?, are you on about a live pa set here, if so, then most of henrys basslines are usually sub bass rolling type basslines, like you find in most forms of techno anyway.

    if it was a dj set, then his sets usually consist of all types of techno
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