Where's the best place for hard techno right now?

**Carl** · 12-08-2003, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by Fernando

hahahaha

Yeah I thought so :roll:

:lol:

**DJ Corbzy** · 12-08-2003, 02:29 AM

Carl's now involved in this thread....

Goodbye Constructiveness.... :lol:

**Carl** · 12-08-2003, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by djcorbzy

Carl's now involved in this thread....

Goodbye Constructiveness.... :lol:

Sorry Mr + positive :lol:

**DJ Corbzy** · 12-08-2003, 02:35 AM

Sorry Mr ummmm...ummm MR I CANT THINK OF A NAME!

**Dustin Zahn** · 12-08-2003, 06:24 PM

I'd have to say North America...

is absolutely NOT on the list for hard techno. :)

**herman** · 12-08-2003, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by MARK EG

yeah brazil does indeed ROCK.

i hope so mate heading down there for the first time tomorrow should be fun

**djfurness** · 03-09-2003, 01:50 AM

its sad for me really up here in sunny scouseland.....we used to be brimming with techno......we had the voodoo which was THE best techno night in the country at one stage in my opinion....The Dj Rush and bone night,the umek night,ben sims,billy nasty.....the last one where dave clarke got on the mic!!! green velvet live.....it really was a piss take of a night in an absolutely incredibly small and intimate venue....
then we had syndicate in the same venue....who started getting more diverse guests like oliver ho,glenn wilson,mike humphries,slobodan,julian liberator.....it really was a techno haven at one point up these ways....youd have voodoo one friday....then syndicate the next....then voodoo the week after that...and then a drum and bass night the week after.....i swear i lived in le bateau on friday nights for nearly 2 years....i dont know how i went anywhere else......
things have changed a lot now though...both nights are well gone...have been for over a year....voodoo closed to concentrate on the label...which has now gone strangely quiet......syndicate just dissapeared.....
in january a lad i know booked a really sweet venue....got charles seigling to come and play and got 150 people in.....a far cry from the voodoos 400 - 500.....
now all liverpool has left is bugged out....which is basically full of students who have went just because its in cream and is seen as trendy...not because they love their techno.......
im startin a night in december and hope to fire things up again but it will be a hard struggle......
best place at the mo for me techno wise is brum.....its got aj!! nuff said!!

**kebabman** · 03-09-2003, 08:43 AM

North is pretty reliable for Hard Techno (Marks a regular there). They are holding nights at Lakota in Bristol now, used to be at the Void in Stoke but thanks to Golden (unbelievably bad House and Trance club) this isn't possible at the moment.
Brum is sound, both the Hog and the Jam can put in a good performance. Inukshuk is pretty good, Techno in the main room which gets hard towards the end. Also in Brum starting on 13 Sep. at Radius Insurrection is starting back up again which is a good Techno night.
Oblivion in Leicester, if it's still going, rocks as well. Heard some good stuff about Hard Techno in Scotland as well but haven't been yet.

**Esox Lucius** · 03-09-2003, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by djfurness

its sad for me really up here in sunny scouseland.....we used to be brimming with techno......we had the voodoo which was THE best techno night in the country at one stage in my opinion....The Dj Rush and bone night,the umek night,ben sims,billy nasty.....the last one where dave clarke got on the mic!!! green velvet live.....it really was a piss take of a night in an absolutely incredibly small and intimate venue....
then we had syndicate in the same venue....who started getting more diverse guests like oliver ho,glenn wilson,mike humphries,slobodan,julian liberator.....it really was a techno haven at one point up these ways....youd have voodoo one friday....then syndicate the next....then voodoo the week after that...and then a drum and bass night the week after.....i swear i lived in le bateau on friday nights for nearly 2 years....i dont know how i went anywhere else......
things have changed a lot now though...both nights are well gone...have been for over a year....voodoo closed to concentrate on the label...which has now gone strangely quiet......syndicate just dissapeared.....
in january a lad i know booked a really sweet venue....got charles seigling to come and play and got 150 people in.....a far cry from the voodoos 400 - 500.....
now all liverpool has left is bugged out....which is basically full of students who have went just because its in cream and is seen as trendy...not because they love their techno.......
im startin a night in december and hope to fire things up again but it will be a hard struggle......
best place at the mo for me techno wise is brum.....its got aj!! nuff said!!

Innit, a few years ago Liverpool was brimming with techno.

Syndicate was alright, but it was always empt, had a few decent nights there...slobodan, julian lib was pretty good too.

Voodoo was THE best night by far, the rush & bone night was excellent.

DJ Bone in 2000 was one of my best nights out.

Liverpool now has the mighty T-funkshun though, Surgeon & Regis on next week!!!!

as for Bugged Out, that cheese club can **** right off, I hear rumours they have Fergie booked to do a techno set later in the year!!!!!!!!!!! :?

**krakp0t** · 03-09-2003, 02:35 PM

eastern europe.

**Paul Zykotik** · 03-09-2003, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Paul Nisbet

in scotland its pretty poo tbh,

Edinburgh is very strong for techno, but not the hard stuff, hope it changes soon. Although there are free parties where a lot of the djs play mad french/euro techno which is like at a hardcore pace.

That's a real shame - back in 99/2000 Edinburgh's hard techno scene was brilliant. Studio 24 would have something on every week (Apex, Subtle Logic, E-ruptor (which is still going) and Pillbox which was possibly the best clubnight ever until it got all political and went tits up), and then there were the wee nights like Loop. Pure used to have some quality guests tho less hard techno orientated, and Sublime down at Wilkie used to get Billy Nasty and Adam Beyer now and again.
Then there were the free parties!
Then Dogma started (as Lost) and while their parties have been excellent with guests ranging from Surgeon to Subhead to Chris Liberator, they also seemed to attract a lot of the purists. Subsequently for me the techno scene in Edinburgh became incredibly closed-minded and political. A real shame.

**The Overfiend** · 03-09-2003, 04:23 PM

Sure as f#6k isn't America!

**Geoff** · 03-09-2003, 07:44 PM

Subsequently for me the techno scene in Edinburgh became incredibly closed-minded and political. A real shame

Do you think so? I think it's just starting to really open up now .. there are techno nights on every weekend .. Sativae is back monthly, we're doing our thing, UTI are going strong, Pure just filled the Studio's to capacity, Digital are doing well, there's another two hard nights starting at the Venue which are being run by some of the free party crews, Slam vs Bugged Out is attracting some big names, something for everyone surely?

Are we really seen as purists? That's not our intention at all .. quite the opposite in fact.

**eyes without a face** · 03-09-2003, 09:40 PM

Voodoo was my local for about 3 years, i think i missed about 2 or 3 in that period. The Rush and Bone night was ****in magical, Rush absolutely ripped La Bateau to pieces. Ive seen some seriously brilliant and downright inspiring Djs in that place, i was ****in gutted when i heard it was to close.

Furness - are you referring to Elate and Tom when u mentioned the Sieling night? in which case he didnt actually put the night on, it was Becky and Degsy who did all the hard work. I actually headlined the month after as Organisation with my friend Bren, there were about 250 people there tho for our gig, that was a class night

**Paul Zykotik** · 04-09-2003, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Geoff Dogma

Do you think so? I think it's just starting to really open up now .. there are techno nights on every weekend .. Sativae is back monthly, we're doing our thing, UTI are going strong, Pure just filled the Studio's to capacity, Digital are doing well, there's another two hard nights starting at the Venue which are being run by some of the free party crews, Slam vs Bugged Out is attracting some big names, something for everyone surely?

Are we really seen as purists? That's not our intention at all .. quite the opposite in fact.

Interesting - and good to hear! I haven't lived in Edinburgh now for 3 years, and I've only been back once in the last 10 months. Every time prior to that a lot of the people I knew from the Apex/Pillbox days (respect for Apex Geoff, another wicked night) said that the scene had lost it's fun, a lot of nights weren't doing that well, there was too many politics involved and a lot of people were just generally becoming very arsey about their techno. We were at a party where I overheard someone say "anyone who plays loops is shit" and another person slating the harder techno that the likes of Cluster and RAW put out. 3 or 4 years ago these would've rocked the dancefloor, and while I'll agree that non-stop loops becomes dull as hell after about half an hour, I think they have a huge role to play in the techno scene.

I don't see the Dogma promoters as purists - at the end of the day you're putting on a night that's showcasing what you want to hear, and bringing in different artists, and total respect for that. I get the feeling if you were purists you wouldn't have booked Chris Liberator a couple of years ago.

Unfortunately quite a few people seem to have seen your night as meaning "hard techno (in the conventional sense) is bad", which is obviously not what you're trying to achieve. As with a lot of purists, I think this is a case of people trying to look cooler than they really are.

The last Dogma I went to - DJ Rush (see, it's been a while) - had a very different atmosphere from what I was used to at the Studios. The dancefloor was rammed, but there just didn't seem to be the atmosphere and the friendliness that was there in the days of Pillbox. It's almost as if it had become untrendy to have a happy face and be civil. And techno is the last scene that would ever be trendy! It just compiled for me everything I'd been told by the people I knew up in Edinburgh who still went out.

But what you've said cheers me up a lot :) I'm gonna be up again in October sometime, so if you know of anything good on (what weekend are you doing Dogma that month?) let me know, and hopefully it'll completely shatter my current opinions of the Edinburgh techno scene.

**Geoff** · 04-09-2003, 06:44 PM

Hi Paul. Glad you liked Apex, didn't realise anyone still remembered it :)

The DJ Rush night was I think the night I've liked least atmosphere wise out of all the ones we've done. You're quite right, it was very busy but there was an odd atmosphere, not like Dogma at all, more just a big name playing in a club. We were expecting the crowd to change a bit due to Rush not having played for many years and attracting different people to our regulars, but not to the extent that it did. Dogma's normally much more friendly, with much smiling :)

Music wise, yup, we're just booking who we want to play rather than trying to fit genres .. earlier this year our nights included Henrik B followed by Regis live followed by Uglyfunk (Mark Hawkins live and Jerome djing) followed by The Youngsters so we're still pretty diverse. All the nights went really well and we had a lot of folk saying that they weren't expecting to enjoy whoever as they didn't like that style of music but actually had a great night, which is all good ..

In October we are on the 17th when we're hosting the launch night for Glenn Wilson's new album "Nightshift" on Punish Recs. Glenn's doing a 2 hour live set followed by a Final Scratch dj set, which should be pretty tasty, hopefully you're about that weekend ..

**djfurness** · 05-09-2003, 04:54 AM

yeah i was referring to tom eyes without a face.......
hmm didnt think he'd did everything.....to be quite honest....how can i put this...hes turned into quite a strange bloke has tom...
watch out for jasbof soon in december....with a rather nice guest linedup!

**Patrick** · 05-09-2003, 11:48 AM

Well, according to The Hype in this month's oh-so-trendy The Face magazine :

"WEY TO GO: Eclectic Electric is a club in Weymouth, promoted by Rock Apes (a local term for people from the island of Portland), that plays... well, eclectic stuff, but especially techno, electro and, er, ghettotech. Gettotech in Weymouth? Gotta be good."

So it seems Wahey-mouth! is where it's really at, folks ! 8)

**Si the Sigh** · 05-09-2003, 11:51 AM

Sorted! Right pack your bags people...Its off to 'sunny' Weymouth! 8)

**crime** · 05-09-2003, 11:56 AM

Weymouth is the new Brighton.. Far more on the pulse and a damn site less expensive...

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