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    Well that`s kinda the point I made earlier.
    It is what it is, and it`s fairly obvious where this is aimed at.
    He`s never really professed to being some stalwart of the underground, or in fact of techno.
    He does a bit of everything, and he knocks em out at a fair rate, so there are going to be a few stinkers.
    I`ve spoken to the guy enough times now to know that the path he wants is where he is going, so fair play, not my cuppa, but then I don`t buy his records.
    I think however we have gone off topic into discussing methods of production and the whole "selling out" thing.
    Which is always an interesting discussion anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
    This is the I want to be a star record.
    Winter Music Conference & Bad Boy Bill Playlist here he comes.
    As I said before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin Zahn
    Is this just coming out now? I remember he did this one a long time ago. It's really bad. To be honest, I think this whole new sound of preach/cave/etc. is just really cheesy. Phillipe started off to be pretty promising, making some old school Zenit type techno and other stuff that was moody and closer to the swedish sound. With time he morphed it into that newer Intec style of crap commercial techno. Why? He was a resident at Aria every weekend and they ate the shit up at the time. He and his agent are really amazing when it comes to the business sense. He really blew up and now plays huge festivals and clubs all over the world. In result, this is the kind of stuff that really gets those crowds going easily so he's become acustomed to it.
    self brainwashing... its a hobby.. :cry:

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    OK.

    What this is all about is the fact that most of us are freaks who listen to really far-out music that is light-years ahead of the common majority. We forget that all to often and therefore remain alienated by a much more diverse listening palate.

    Producers like Preach have also come from this side of the fence. Why do they now sit on the other side? Is it money, is it fame, is it recognition or respect. Only Preach could answer this reason.

    I for one would think that it has a lot to do with reaching out to people who really just listen and dance for the sake of it and not just because the artist uses a "MachineDrum" or "MPC4000" to program their stuff. Get my drift??
    Preach prolly really gets a kick out of having a lot of genuine people who just come up and say "i love what you did with one of my favourite tracks dude"......there is a lot of gratification from doing this regardless of the money aspect. As an artist it is very important to have that feedback and response. Something more than most of us ever get due to a less accessible sound.

    The common majority rule in this world and the average they set is the peak of the bell-curve. If they like familiar sounds and styles so be it. Techno is often troubled by being too far ahead of itself for its own good. Like it or hate it, no matter.....just enjoy where you at and be satisfied that you can even do what you do in this time as you are all part of history by pushing boundaries.

    As Steve's story points out above......if you strive hard and long enough in this game you will also have to make the call as to what side of the bell-curve you wanna sit on. That is your choice.
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    i dont see the big deal... its a harmless cheesy piece of fun. probably has its place at certain parties. its not exactly my cuppa tea but then again i'm not into 2hr sets of dark and disturbing techno either. let the man do what he does, i say.

    we should just be happy that we have a choice to listen or not.

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    i never liked the original
    so this is double bad for me

    we sure do get a lot of excersise round here don't we?
    getting on and off our high horses all day .
    i've just got on mine again , but i'll soon be off again , then on , then off , then on , then off , on , off , on , off etc etc etc ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by davethedrummer
    pint anyone?

    i'm always up for a pint.

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    Well, there are worse things happening than this. At least it`s his own sound, and he`s not just another clone regurgitating someone elses sound.
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    this track isnt great - but i've heard worse.
    its still better than the constant churn out of pap that hardhouse heads are producing under the banner of techno

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    Quote Originally Posted by MangaFish
    this track isnt great - but i've heard worse.
    its still better than the constant churn out of pap that hardhouse heads are producing under the banner of techno
    the mans speaking the truth here!

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    well about the pap that hardhouse heads churn out and call it techno

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    hey guys! wanna say thanks for the very interesting topic (yes i really enjoyed reading it even tho alot of comments are negative). i wanna say first that im quite happy the way my career is going and i wouldnt change my vision for anybody else's opinion!

    i dont deny my influences and i actually have more experience now in the studio to be able to create what i have always wanted my sound to be. perhaps its cheese, perhaps its sometimes crowd pleasures... but i will say that 95% of the work i have done i was glad to have it in my record case because it represented me...

    my background is acid house, trance, heavy metal, hiphop, alernative, pop... its a blend yes but why would i have to follow a specific trend? what is techno nowadays anyway... im just making music!

    anyway i just want to say that me and marcog did this blur remix a while ago (2years at least) and then when carl cox heard it he started playing it all over and then michel de hey then kanzyani then this guy and this guy... everybody was asking us to release it!

    aint making much with records anyway... i dont think we are doing this for cash or fame...

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    Quote Originally Posted by preach
    aint making much with records anyway... i dont think we are doing this for cash or fame...
    Oh go on, I`ve seen you ogling those fur lined lizard skin lounge boots in the window of prada, ya mad frenchie.
    Not to mention the extra wide brimmed pimp hat.
    Gotta pay for it somehow, and the bitches ain`t earnin you no bread anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by preach
    hey guys! wanna say thanks for the very interesting topic (yes i really enjoyed reading it even tho alot of comments are negative). i wanna say first that im quite happy the way my career is going and i wouldnt change my vision for anybody else's opinion!

    i dont deny my influences and i actually have more experience now in the studio to be able to create what i have always wanted my sound to be. perhaps its cheese, perhaps its sometimes crowd pleasures... but i will say that 95% of the work i have done i was glad to have it in my record case because it represented me...

    my background is acid house, trance, heavy metal, hiphop, alernative, pop... its a blend yes but why would i have to follow a specific trend? what is techno nowadays anyway... im just making music!

    anyway i just want to say that me and marcog did this blur remix a while ago (2years at least) and then when carl cox heard it he started playing it all over and then michel de hey then kanzyani then this guy and this guy... everybody was asking us to release it!

    aint making much with records anyway... i dont think we are doing this for cash or fame...
    one of the many reasons why you rock, philippe! good for you!

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    I don't like the track too much but Preach is doing what he loves so good for him. :)

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    next blackout audio radio show is an interview with preach.check the d/l section of the site next week :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
    This is the I want to be a star record.
    Winter Music Conference & Bad Boy Bill Playlist here he comes.
    Ok so Kanzyani and Cox
    Same Difference.
    Who else can make this and have a hydraulix release in the same month?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
    Quote Originally Posted by SummerOfSam
    This is the I want to be a star record.
    Winter Music Conference & Bad Boy Bill Playlist here he comes.
    Ok so Kanzyani and Cox
    Same Difference.
    Who else can make this and have a hydraulix release in the same month?
    i dont get it? anyone who trie's i guess, no offence but to Preach of course but it doesnt strike me as a hard thing to do, just putting records out like the rest?

    It's obvious phillipe isnt offended by people's opinion's on here, which is great, even with the schranz lot ive always said, as do most, if its what the individual wants to do then screw everyone else.

    still a smelly track tho ;)

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    You don't get it?
    It's like The Game making a cartoon & a gangster album in one week and maintaining artistic integrity among peers.
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