jesus.

I just dont get this whole concept of no patience and 'lifting' & 'hijacking' stuff from someone else buzz. Its a discussion and if you are gonna say stuff like that dont expect people on a discussion forums to agree with everything you say.

*mOST* people here get a buzz out of actually creatings everything from scratch in their heads and with their hands i'd imagine.. Thats not to say samples + wavs from here and there arent used but wouldnt agree with the whole " throwing loops about the place to enhance the overall product is ok in my book"view of yours.

If you want to make subtle rythmns behind a new track of yours why not just sample an old or unfinished track of your own and do your thing with recycle & a low pass filter. Same difference except its all your own.