i think there's a bit of over-reaction in this thread. Just taking a loop right out of an existing record and plonking it in ur work and calling it your own is just plaing wrong. Chop it up, edit it, build the track around the loop by all means but not crediting the original artist or mentioning where the loop came from is wrong. There's the whole moral issue of course, some people think nothing of taking a loop of someone else's work and just sticking it in their own rather prominently and not batting an eyelid at calling it their own work. There is evidence of this on the market of course, it's not unfair to mention the whole skulltunes facade because everyone knows about it anyway.

Pete's loop's are a great example, because he made them solely for people to use, and i use pete as an example because i used his loops in a few tracks which ended up getting taken for release. The first was the "A Body To Jack" track which Glenn took for Template, it was a track i worked up out of pete's loop's and my own track parts such as the percussions and kick and my production work, so it was a straight collab in my eyes and it went down as such, Scott Gray and Pete Donaldson, which was only fair. Another is a track on an ep i have coming up on advanced, where ive used 2 of pete's loops in a track, but its not a colab, as the loop's arent as prominent and it's a solo ep, but i have given him a big thanks on the record, which is only fair, and Pete's more than happy with this

bottom line is, it's up to people to make their own mistakes when it comes to sampling, you know when your doing a track using other loops/loop sources wether or not your overstepping the mark, its just some dont bother to step back