Support Juan atkins for a grammy

[electoad]

I agree - techno for me is about music minus the image. The idea that a sun deprived group of geeks can get up and play withOUT all that garbage that comes along with rock/pop(image/persona).

its about the music, but by the same token some c*nts need personality checks, but f*ck it - just listen and enjoy!

[Komplex]

second, we wouldnt be here we it not for him.

THINK ABOUT IT!!!

yeah we would. think about it!!!

Anyway, more on topic now, wasn't Cybotron two guys and not just Juan Atkins? Who was the other guy that DIDN't get "nominated as a writer on missy elliot's latest steaming pile of poo"? or did he get nominated too?

[dirty_bass]

wow.. this is crazy.

first of all, i love ya orange man but why post this on a forum - it's personal opinion????????

second, we wouldnt be here we it not for him.

THINK ABOUT IT!!!

i cant believe you're all being like this. juan atkins is the reason why we are here! and if you cant see this, i'll shut down this site right now. leave the personal crap out of it pleeeeeaaaaseee!!!!!!

i interviewed him once and i have to say i can see he was perhaps a little adverse to public contact but jesus, this man created the very thing we're talking about!!!!!!

guys, juan atkins IS TECHNO! stop this shit! arrghhh!!! it's ridiculous. i just dont get you!!!! i feel like crying!!!

:(

we don`t all share the same heroes though mark.

It`s an odd argument, but I like disney films, it brought the animation to the masses, made it viable as a film medium, and is kinda responsible for the CGI industry in film, in a way.
However, Walt Disney was a nasty fascist pig, and I don`t like him.
this doesn`t mean I insult my animation degree or my love of animated film.
And without disney, animation becoming big would have still happenedm maybe not as quickly, and maybe not in the same way, but it would have happened.
Same for atkins for some people.

[djshiva]

no one, regardless of their contributions, is above reproach.

no one.

[teknorich]

What Orange described is unforgivable from anybody. That is a total, total lack of respect. If Atkins created techno, then why does he sh*t on the other members of the scene he worked so hard to produce?

[DJ Becka]

wow.. this is crazy.

first of all, i love ya orange man but why post this on a forum - it's personal opinion????????

second, we wouldnt be here we it not for him.

THINK ABOUT IT!!!

i cant believe you're all being like this. juan atkins is the reason why we are here! and if you cant see this, i'll shut down this site right now. leave the personal crap out of it pleeeeeaaaaseee!!!!!!

i interviewed him once and i have to say i can see he was perhaps a little adverse to public contact but jesus, this man created the very thing we're talking about!!!!!!

guys, juan atkins IS TECHNO! stop this shit! arrghhh!!! it's ridiculous. i just dont get you!!!! i feel like crying!!!

:(

Oh comm'on Mark....just because the guy created this whole thing we know and love, does that give him the right to shit on people like that? I mean, I've met plenty of artists, including yourself, who have made contributions to the scene and the music, and they dont act like dicks. No one is taking away from him and what he's done for the music - it's just his whole attitude that is a problem. I think Juan's behavior towards Agent Orange was uncalled for and uneccessary - bad day or not - there's no need to abuse people like that- no matter who you are.

[The Overfiend]

You've never had a bad day?
Some people handle their angst better than others.

I agree what Atkins did to my sharmute fam is totally f*cked.
But I will not deny his contribution to what we do now.

[Miromiric]

i think i never heard a single record of atkins`.

[Miromiric]

i am bashfull now :blush:

[DJ Becka]

You've never had a bad day?
Some people handle their angst better than others.

I agree what Atkins did to my sharmute fam is totally f*cked.
But I will not deny his contribution to what we do now.

No, no one is denying what he's done - he just doesnt need to be an a-hole about it ;)

[gunjack]

dude i have been sticking up for juan for years, but the fact is that the detroit cats are really riding the past and doing F UCK ALL FOR THE FUTURE except for charging outragious prices and being arrogant....

[gunjack]

oh and tocsin, EAT A DICK BRO. ; )

[Dustin Zahn]

Aside from a few Cybotron tracks, I've never been a fan of Atkins, even if he is from Detroit. Give respect where respect is due. When it comes to Detroit, I'm with Gunjack on this one. The only one who even still makes consistently amazing productions is Carl Craig. There are others such as Mills who still put out some good records, but Carl is always consistently good and worth buying on site. There is a long list of Detroit heroes who I will respect to the end day, and most of the obvious names are not on that list.

And to be honest, I'm sure Agent Orange's situation wasn't just one of Atkin's "bad days." There is a whole other side to his life which most people don't know about and a public forum is no place for its discussion. But based on that previous knowledge, all the arrogant/asshole stories don't really suprise me.

[dirty_bass]

Atkins shoulda listened to the man.


I am the white knight
and I am coming to destroy your mind

And then I will destroy you

[eyeswithoutaface]

should of just knocked him out

[mat]

dude i have been sticking up for juan for years, but the fact is that the detroit cats are really riding the past and doing F UCK ALL FOR THE FUTURE except for charging outragious prices and being arrogant....

I guess you don't speak about Submerge/UR people, because I've
never heard they were arrogant or anything unrespectfull.

Also remember most of the detroit cats have been spoiled by some
european majors at least once as they were starving to make
records. Now, of course it's the payback, I don't excuse Juan's
behaviour but this guy was at first a producer. So if promoters
offer him money to mix he will spin the records he like but don't
expect him to be a very good dj.

[Francisco Scaramanga]

dude i have been sticking up for juan for years, but the fact is that the detroit cats are really riding the past and doing F UCK ALL FOR THE FUTURE except for charging outragious prices and being arrogant....

I dont really know much about Juan except for what Ive heard over the net, and Im definately not making any opinions based on what a bunch of people say on a forum. I like some of his music, but Ive never heard him DJ, so I'll have to reserve judgement.

But with regards to the rest of the guys from detroit, you seem quite bitter towards them. I dont know any of them either, but I dont think its fair to say they are riding the past. Mills and Hawtin both continue to do new things and steer techno in new directions after all these years (stuff like this orchestra thing, mixes in 5.1 surround, DVD mixing, etc), Carl Craig is still making good music, and UR's Galaxy 2 Galaxy live show is completely unique and unlike anything else that anyone is doing in techno, and really really good. In fact that UR show is probably the best thing I have seen in the world of techno - and it didn't cost any more than a normal night.

And as for the likes of May, sure, he hasnt made a tune in years, but if you can DJ as well as he can, I reckon its fair to let him off.

Anyway, saying they are doing **** all for the future is blatantly untrue if you actually think about it.

[Sunil]

and UR's Galaxy 2 Galaxy live show is completely unique and unlike anything else that anyone is doing in techno, and really really good. In fact that UR show is probably the best thing I have seen in the world of techno - and it didn't cost any more than a normal night.

Must admit I didn't really feel their live show. It's good that you liked it, and sure it's nice to hear some of the old classics; but for me personally the only thing 'techno' about this live show is the name UR, not so much the music. It may be unique in techno what the do, but does it stand up as being so special when you put them alongside the many soul/funk/session bands doing the circuits? To be clear here, I'm no hater, but I think this should be put in context a little.

Re: Atkins.. he may have had his day, and he might have been rude to someone, but hell, some of the Cybotron stuff still sounds so fresh and it certainly deserves to win and be recognised on a bigger level. Not quite the Mad Mike of old to be worried about Grammys, but it's a good call nonetheless.

[Agent Orange NYC]

Mark I apologize if you feel this was inappropriet to post that on here, but i swore that moment when it happened, that i would dedicate my life to crusade agaist him or anyone else that thinks they are "above the law" just cause they have a bit of fame. Everyone craps from the same place, we're all the same. I understand people have bad days, if he chose to not speak to me that would have been fine, but he was straight up disrespectful to me and what i was working so hard on. I hold respect above all else. Maybe if i did cross him one in jaw with the 5 brothers i would have let out all of my aggression at once but i don't beleive in violnece (98% of the time hehe) so this is my revenge i guess.

wow.. this is crazy.

first of all, i love ya orange man but why post this on a forum - it's personal opinion????????

second, we wouldnt be here we it not for him.

THINK ABOUT IT!!!

i cant believe you're all being like this. juan atkins is the reason why we are here! and if you cant see this, i'll shut down this site right now. leave the personal crap out of it pleeeeeaaaaseee!!!!!!

i interviewed him once and i have to say i can see he was perhaps a little adverse to public contact but jesus, this man created the very thing we're talking about!!!!!!

guys, juan atkins IS TECHNO! stop this shit! arrghhh!!! it's ridiculous. i just dont get you!!!! i feel like crying!!!

:(

[Dustin Zahn]

**** 'em, the way he put you off was disrespectful. I would have jacked him across the jaw right then and there. Just because someone put out a few good dance music records doesn't give them the right to be a jerk off, plain and simple.