Time for change.

**teknorich** · 13-01-2006, 02:27 PM

Yeah, I agree. Half of the Prodigy's success comes from their wild stage shows. That is what made them so popular with the ravers, the rock kids, basically with everyone. It wasn't just the tunes, it was the show!! Maybe it's hard to make such a performance for techno, as it's a very different music, but more of an effort than just a geezer with a laptop please!

**gumpy green** · 13-01-2006, 03:33 PM

just play techno u like and mash it all up and forget fukin styles.

some emotion and meaning in the more music would be good...
vocals that make folks think.

djing- dont get me started........just keeping mixing tracks and forget about all the other styles cos im sick of ranting, they dont work with techno...hahaha, just wait till ya see some of my new stuff......turnablism fused with techno.

id luv to jam one turntable mixer and fx with nutin but tools/samles cut over someone suppliing the muisc live pa stylee.

**gumpy green** · 13-01-2006, 03:34 PM

fuk my grammer is wac

hahaha...

**tocsin** · 13-01-2006, 04:13 PM

I'm still just going to do what I find fun. Nothing more, nothing less. If people like it, cool. If not, oh well. It just wasn't for them then.

As for experiments, joining up with some friends for a rock/punk thing with a trained classical singer and some electronic beats. Live bass and guitar. No idea if anything good is going to come out of it, but it will be fun to play around with and see how it takes shape. It'll be fun to work with some people in a setup that can have a may spontaneuos interaction, rather than strictly programmed with maybe a live synth here or there.
My SO also recently picked up the banjo and will hopefully be able to play it well enough in about a year. Given the tempo of a lot of banjo tracks, she wants to experiment with it over some hardcore techno which could sound kinda cool.

Past shit I've been working on has kinda been all over the map. I wouldn't really call it "moving forward" though in the way that a lot of people into "techno" think it should evolve. It's been more just taking different sounds of different genres of the past and throwing them together, often with vocals in mind.

**gumpy green** · 13-01-2006, 04:28 PM

good stuff toscin..banjocore.

id like so see live playing of electronic instument, im feeling tim exiles approach, defo top drawer stuff.

**Fordy** · 13-01-2006, 07:11 PM

I want to see full live techno bands as it were, thats something that would be interesting for me.

More live instruments in general, set techno apart from the rest of the so called 'dance scene'.

Underground Resistance at voodoo last year were on the right track, good to see.

**djshiva** · 13-01-2006, 07:12 PM

i want to see artists look less bored.

i come from a punk rock background and part of what's missing for me personally is seeing people just LETTING GO and enjoying what they do.

that's why i enjoyed the drum n bass event. they were not only mixing it up, but they were having FUN and bringing the audience into it as well (hence why i ended up on the cowbell playing tip).

i know there is a schism between those who "just wanna do their thing and if someone else likes it well then cool and those who are there to entertain AND push/educate the crowd. a little more mixture between the two and i think we're onto something. i wanna do what i enjoy and play what i like, but i can never forget that the people on the dancefloor PAID to hear music and also want to have a good time. i can ram what i like down their throats, or i can bridge the gap and enjoy myself and bring them along.

if you look bored, that has an affect. not saying start dancing around like a prat JUST to get the audience into it, but perhaps give yourself the space to get your groove on, shake your ass and for god's sake smile once in a while you Very Serious Techno Artists(tm). ;)

**Agent Orange NYC** · 13-01-2006, 08:20 PM

The title of this thred made me remember...

There's a time to live and a time to die,
and a time to meet the maker.
There's a time to live, but isn't it strange,
that as soon as you're born you're dyyyyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiin'.

10 points for whoever knows the name of that song and the artist~!

**SlavikSvensk** · 13-01-2006, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by rhythmtech

anyone seen that laptop jams thing? eight or so lads with laptops just jammin on the fly. was featured in future-music last year i think.

we have laptop battles about once a month in seattle. sometimes it's f***ing great. sometimes it's f***ing boring

**jacques** · 13-01-2006, 08:52 PM

i think its important not to take it too seriously, its about party music, for party people, and whatever gets people going at a given point in time, whether it be live, laptop, dj, whatever - as long as it delivers for the crowd at that moment...

**marginmaster** · 13-01-2006, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Agent Orange NYC

The title of this thred made me remember...

There's a time to live and a time to die,
and a time to meet the maker.
There's a time to live, but isn't it strange,
that as soon as you're born you're dyyyyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiin'.

10 points for whoever knows the name of that song and the artist~!

europe-the final countdown?

**tocsin** · 13-01-2006, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by jacques

i think its important not to take it too seriously, its about party music, for party people, and whatever gets people going at a given point in time, whether it be live, laptop, dj, whatever - as long as it delivers for the crowd at that moment...

True. I'm doing a one time thing with a few friends in a couple months. Should be "interesting" based on what's likely going to happen. Mix of beats, noise and circuit bent stuff. We'll be performing in the heart of hipster land as "Burt Reynolds Called and he Wants his Coke Whore Back." If we're able to leave without broken bones, it will be a failure. Going for a Tony Clifton meets Techno thing. ;)

**MARKEG** · 14-01-2006, 01:15 AM

brilliant posts JUST WHAT I EXPECTED FROM YOU ALL!!! this is superb!!!! loads of food for thought. we need to think more guys.. this is not about following the trends imho. this is about trying to make a change surely! ;)

**electoad** · 14-01-2006, 01:41 AM

Its called evolution - stay the same and eventually die when your environment crashes.
Change and have a random shot at surviving and creating something way better.

**barry_fyasko** · 14-01-2006, 09:29 AM

im with jamie and shiva on this one, theres a passion that u get in rock musis thats missing from techno a lot of the time. i reckon acid techno captured the rawness and full-on party attitude of punk, say what u will about it musically. punk was never the thinking mans music, but it sure as fuk made people have a good time.

acid techno mite be too simplified and formulaic for many, but i think maybe a lesson could be learned from it. the emphasis was on energy and party attitude, and thats been missing from a lot of the sets ive heard recently.

the records i try and buy are ones which give me a genuine rush when i hear them, of one kind or another. it should make your leg start twitching as it kicks in, when theres a bit of funk and a bit of attitude, something that makes it more like a song and less like a tool.

ive found schranz sets to be pretty self indulgent sometimes, the dj will be hammering away at the hardest kick drums and the most bludgeoningly fast fills while a few people dance and the rest kinda stand around looking dazed. like someone said, people have paid money to come to this nite, they wanna be entertained, they wanna dance all nite. do your own thing, be experimental, but remember youre in a club and everyones here to party :)

i dont produce music myself (aint got the time and definitely not the money) but id like to see techno coming out thats got the soul and passion of rock/conventional music fused with the power that only techno has (you know what im talking about)

**holotropik** · 14-01-2006, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by davethedrummer

live musicians
live techno jams
real musical skills / performance / interaction

oh Mr. Drummer....you made my day with that one :)

abso.****en.lutely !!!

**holotropik** · 14-01-2006, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Agent Orange NYC

The title of this thred made me remember...

There's a time to live and a time to die,
and a time to meet the maker.
There's a time to live, but isn't it strange,
that as soon as you're born you're dyyyyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiin'.

10 points for whoever knows the name of that song and the artist~!

Iron Maiden - Seventh son of a seventh son

gawd!! I'm not sure of the song but I def know the artist - its been a long time since i heard that one.

damm you!! now i have to go into the archives and dig out all my old iron's stuff to find out......blah!!

**barry_fyasko** · 14-01-2006, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by holotropik

Originally Posted by Agent Orange NYC

The title of this thred made me remember...

There's a time to live and a time to die,
and a time to meet the maker.
There's a time to live, but isn't it strange,
that as soon as you're born you're dyyyyyyyyiiiiiiiiiiin'.

10 points for whoever knows the name of that song and the artist~!

Iron Maiden - Seventh son of a seventh son

gawd!! I'm not sure of the song but I def know the artist - its been a long time since i heard that one.

damm you!! now i have to go into the archives and dig out all my old iron's stuff to find out......blah!!

got it! the clairvoyant!

thats been doin my head in

**holotropik** · 14-01-2006, 12:15 PM

ahhh yes.....bloody hell!!! thats too long ago to worry about i reckon. How good the Iron's were though hey?!! Bloody brilliant work from them in the day....hehehe.

**barry_fyasko** · 14-01-2006, 12:24 PM

hallowed be thy name... feckin masterpiece

dont write em like that anymore eh

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