Turntablism...has it got a place in techno?

[Conan]

Techno is about hypnotic rhythmn

Always liked scratching, but think it should complement, not take centre stage.

Who says Techno is about hypnotic rhythm, why do you say that.


Good point about complementing the music not taking centre stage.

[anx]

one thing a dj has to remember when they play techno is that people are listening to techno for the tracks, not the dj, which is quite the opposite when it comes to turntablism. you have to watch out and make sure your tricks are not overpowering your music, the goal is to keep people dancing, not to stand there and watch.

[Jay Pace]

Techno is about hypnotic rhythmn

Always liked scratching, but think it should complement, not take centre stage.

Who says Techno is about hypnotic rhythm, why do you say that.

Well, for me it is. Techno has a rhythmn and structure that builds upon itself. It has a natural continuity that hip hop, D&B and breaks all lack. Scratching lends itself more to this music as it doesn't have the same driving rhythmic elements.

Well thats how I see it anyways. Others may disagree...

[djshiva]

one thing a dj has to remember when they play techno is that people are listening to techno for the tracks, not the dj, which is quite the opposite when it comes to turntablism. you have to watch out and make sure your tricks are not overpowering your music, the goal is to keep people dancing, not to stand there and watch.

hmmm...i somewhat agree with this, but not entirely.

no, you definitely do not want tricks to overpower the music OR mess up the groove...agreed.

but as far as the first statement, i have heard various djs play almost the same tracks and one will rock it and one will bore me to death. so there is something to the dj themselves, and how much they put into it. listening to a bunch of KILLER techno tracks just run back to back is about the most boring thing i can imagine...no matter how hot the tracks. if i want that, i can stay home and just listen iTunes.

to me, the beauty of djing is the mix itself. taking two really good tracks and turning them into a whole 'nother monster. and if someone can accent their djing with some good, rhythmic scratching (not too much...a good dj knows when to let things play)...then the dancefloor will appreciate it...

[anx]

but as far as the first statement, i have heard various djs play almost the same tracks and one will rock it and one will bore me to death. so there is something to the dj themselves, and how much they put into it. listening to a bunch of KILLER techno tracks just run back to back is about the most boring thing i can imagine...no matter how hot the tracks. if i want that, i can stay home and just listen iTunes.

oh yea i totally agree, the mix is the most important thing when it comes to techno...its up to the dj to make it interesting, thats the way i've always looked at it.

i guess im just trying to say, that if you are going to do tricks or scratching, make it compliment the track, and not overpower it. anyone can learn how to do tricks with enough practice, its putting them in the right spot that takes the talent...

[machina]

I don't mind scratching and general screwing around with tracks if it's done respectfully... unfortunately most of the time i think it's shocking and downright disrespectful to the producers... nothing worse than hearing your favourite tunes destroyed by indulgent dj's with 'my dick is bigger than yours' syndrome.

machina

[rhythmtech]

done well and with restraint - amazing
done badly - BAD!

[RDR]

If you cant scratch - you aint lived.

its the ultimate way of learning how to manipulate your records. Practice, practice, practice.

Learn it and you'll never look back.

Techno WITHOUT scratching? Oh the horror of it. (IMO)

[RDR]

unfortunately most of the time i think it's shocking and downright disrespectful to the producers...

Dont respect your records, treat them like the little slag's that they are and bend them to your will. :devilish:

@Shiva - bang on point.

[RDR]

"I'm doing a Dj technique's course at the mo' in college"

WHAT?
DJ course at college?
That is sick.

Hows that then?

i teach DJ technique at college. do you?

[gumpy green]

why do the folks that dont like it use the constant skratching aint gonna get the dancefloor rockin argue......a good dj aint gonna do that, theyll use all the styles throughout the set.......i for one use all my techniques, sometimes i just drop tunes in, others mixed, some fxed out, some filterred in, others beat juggled, others cutting over a track, sometimes no records and fukin about with the kp2 sample function to rmx a track dropping in vocals over the top....and so on...

no good dj will skratch the whole set...yuk.

try and see the future of what it could become with some vision and hard practice....i dare thee to just stick on the same 2 records and mess about with them for a month with sum fx and see what comes from it.

[Xavi]

how come no one mentioned DJ MURPHY >>??? guy is a fukin lunatic !!!!! u have to see+hear him for yourself to beleive it !!! :bonk:

that's techno + turntableism right there !!

[gumpy green]

heard him yes....hes good but no wher near the musical level of the whats possible and what i hav in my vision of techno/turntablism fused....good on him for getting it going tho.....

think dj craze when he spins drum and bass. and then breaks it down with musical sequences and such outstanding pression, cutting faders in musical rythms with both hands switching between fader and decks.....the boy crabs with both hands......he really is doing 2 rythms and the same time when hes cutting drum patters and plying basslines.....LIVE MUISC..not just the odd cut over a beat.

[Davin]

"I'm doing a Dj technique's course at the mo' in college"

WHAT?
DJ course at college?
That is sick.

Aint nothin' sick about it my friend infact it's a highly enjoyable course that does'nt concentrate on what you probably think it doe's!!!
You need to understand that while there are people in the course using it to build their technique on the deck's, and there are other's like myself using it to gain experience and knowledge in the field's of production, self promotion, business etho's in the industry,and to build a biography /portfolio!!!!and that's only an few area's of the course, you probably thought that we sit round all day banging out tune's well you my friend were wrong!!
And when you have the various talent's of Sunil Sharpe, Dj Tuki, and , 2 BiT (aka Dekabel) teaching you you gain alot!!!!

[Jay Pace]

I'm guessing he's using "sick" to mean "good"

[Davin]

Should have just siad "good" in that case!!!

[rhythmtech]

Should have just siad "good" in that case!!!

my old mate jon hussy still teaching out there?

[rhythmtech]

I'm guessing he's using "sick" to mean "good"

yeashizzle. we dubsnizzles tend to stickyfissle to the more traditionalizzle way ofizzle talking. word.

[gunjack]

i dunno but i was beat juggling the f uck out of some antidandruff stuff last week to an audience who just stood there without dancing. i thought they hated it then i read the comments the next day on the web and these kids were apperently blow away! goes to show you never know.

[stjohn]

beat jugglin definatly has a place...... 2 copies of a tune can be great fun. it can also be an abomination if uve drank too much or indulged in other substances, which is often my case!