Saints prevserve us!

**RDR** · 22-01-2006, 09:43 AM

Stop! Its not ready yet!

I have been busy recording 1min segments of vinyl to go onto a website record shop that my friend is starting up in the UK and in the course of this i have been utterly shocked at the piss poor quality from a lot of the records i have been listening to.

Im not talking about the cut (props to Nilz at the Exchange and Curve Pusher, they rule in terms of quality cuts) im talking about the quality of the music.

i have recorded over 350 records in the last week and as an honest average i would say that 70% were a complete waste of time.

Not only this but some of the tunes i listened to from established artists were bereft of even the slightest attempt at originality - i really wish i could name names and labels but that i refuse to do for obvious reasons.

I find it really depressing and suprising that people spend SO MUCH money releasing records that simply arent fit to be released. Why is this? Do folk go mad?

There were some nice suprises tho! The Kick the Drum records specifically 002 was a really good record, pounding and funky. There were others, but TBH i cant remember their names 350 records tends to do that to a person.

There are a lot of discussion points contained here, some neg some pos, i just found the experience primarily depressing...

OH and BTW, techno producers out there!!!.. Stop using rides as an excuse to avoid sorting your tune out ' "screw it, bang a ride in, that'll make it sound better"

:lol:

**RDR** · 22-01-2006, 12:00 PM

o.k. so on second reading i didnt intend this to sound so negative, it wasnt intended as such - if you want to take it as a rant then pleae do so, however...

However...

Ah, **** it. thats my opinion. Im not saying that techno is shit - it clearly isnt, i guess that those people out there trying to be creative and trying to push the envelope, but quite frankly im not seeing it as much as i used to...

Have my ears become jaded? I do know that i accept less junk from established producers than i used to.

**victor** · 22-01-2006, 01:35 PM

shouldn't you be telling your mate he's buying loads of shit records for his shop? ;)

**RDR** · 22-01-2006, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by victor

shouldn't you be telling your mate he's buying loads of shit records for his shop? ;)

Right

So Jehrico, Raw, Maximum Minimum and Novamute are off the list then...

Anyway, my point is that whilst these labels are supposed to be good, some of the tracks were NOT good. I was espeically suprised at Novamute.

PS - there were GOOD records, but these were few and far between, its not really a suprise as the amount of horrid music in any genre tends to outweigh the class ones, this is taken as read.

It just suprises me that people are willing t spend ALL that time making records and releasing them when they clearly dont come up to scratch, in terms of structure, sounds and funkiness...

Shame.

Bit depressing really, guess thats my problem tho' and i'll have to get over it ... :cheese:

**RDR** · 22-01-2006, 04:08 PM

in case you are wondering i have catalogued the J,K, L and N sections.. thats why those label names are included. not having a dig at them overall, its just the tracks that were crap, really really stank.

**RDR** · 22-01-2006, 04:08 PM

oh shit, and M...

**koma** · 22-01-2006, 04:59 PM

man, its going on in most genres...

i mean, i'm getting like 10-20 GB of new shyte every month or two, and i delete 2/3 in the next 2 days.. coz its just bad
wheather we talk about house and techno, or rnb/hiphop, or pop and rock... same thing everywhere...

**RDR** · 22-01-2006, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by koma

man, its going on in most genres...

i mean, i'm getting like 10-20 GB of new shyte every month or two, and i delete 2/3 in the next 2 days.. coz its just bad
wheather we talk about house and techno, or rnb/hiphop, or pop and rock... same thing everywhere...

I agree about the genres... i've never had the opportunity to listen to so much music before and its just ****ing shocking. at least it will make the gems shine even more!

**dan the acid man** · 22-01-2006, 08:06 PM

i have to say, since i got the t'interweb thingy a few years ago, i spend alot more time browsing record shops online, as before, i'd be nipping into a record shop in my dinner hour, with only a few minutes to spare.

there are alot of records out there that sound like they've been knocked up on reason in a day, the kind of records i could make easily, and im crap, but i wouldn't dare release them, but some people just don't have that in built quality control, well thats what it seems to me anyway.

as for records not being forward thinking and new sounding, yes, im into that alot, but im also into good music, whether its been done a thousand times already or not.

**rhythmtech** · 22-01-2006, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by dan the acid man

t'interweb.

"look, look i'm showin you, i'm showing you"

**dan the acid man** · 22-01-2006, 10:01 PM

:lol: :lol: :lol:

**davethedrummer** · 22-01-2006, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by dan the acid man

i have to say, since i got the t'interweb thingy a few years ago, i spend alot more time browsing record shops online, as before, i'd be nipping into a record shop in my dinner hour, with only a few minutes to spare.

there are alot of records out there that sound like they've been knocked up on reason in a day, the kind of records i could make easily, and im crap, but i wouldn't dare release them, but some people just don't have that in built quality control, well thats what it seems to me anyway.

as for records not being forward thinking and new sounding, yes, im into that alot, but im also into good music, whether its been done a thousand times already or not.

any examples ? / links
i'm curious

**dan the acid man** · 22-01-2006, 11:09 PM

i've just read my post again, and it makes me sound like a right nobber doesn't it, sorry

sometimes i type and don't think how it looks.

shall i just shut up now before i dig a bigger hole

oldbugger · 22-01-2006, 11:13 PM

no..just get your coat

**dan the acid man** · 22-01-2006, 11:13 PM

i never even take my coat off anymore

oldbugger · 22-01-2006, 11:15 PM

actually it makes perfect sense to me dan. i know where your coming from.

basicaly.. far too many people release shit music.. haha

**dan the acid man** · 22-01-2006, 11:20 PM

don't get me wrong, i have respect for anybody that makes any kind of music, even if im not into it, and i suppose as im not into some of these style of techno, or into that particular record, its easy for me to say, bah thats rubbish, sounds like it was made in a day with no thought behind it......blah blah, when i shouldn't really.

**The Overfiend** · 23-01-2006, 04:26 AM

I'll have to agree.
People are releasing what they feel people want to buy.
Instead of releasing what they want to because some distributor is telling them what they should put out.
Distributors should be quality control.
Some are doing more damage than doing good.

**The Divide** · 23-01-2006, 04:54 AM

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

OH and BTW, techno producers out there!!!.. Stop using rides as an excuse to avoid sorting your tune out ' "screw it, bang a ride in, that'll make it sound better"

Word to that

**RDR** · 23-01-2006, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by The Divide

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

OH and BTW, techno producers out there!!!.. Stop using rides as an excuse to avoid sorting your tune out ' "screw it, bang a ride in, that'll make it sound better"

Word to that

Ironically, i am guilty of this from time to time...

Note to self: Sort it OUT! chris.

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