Sure then we can just say that every body who made techno after the belville is ripping it off and "whitewashing" it. You got an oppinion on hawtin and thats great but it doesn't mean that it's the last word. You have your say and other people have theirs.

I'm not saying that Richie Hawtin is the best producer I'd like to see at the olympics but it's better than nothing, and thats my point and maybe the point of a few people.

Is Hawtin over hyped ****in right he is, am I a fan of his no, but it doesnt mean he doesnt deserve some respect for a good achievement.

And ****1in relax with your superiority there chief.