talk asiff all kids are schranz beer xtc kids that's just plain bollocks there is a huge gap between the minimal stuff hawtin was playing and schranz (which I'm no fan of either) I prefer dj's like garnier, hawtin, rapaciolli, surgeon, ruskin, I'm saying as in my previous post that if a crowd stands still for one and a half hours then the dj should realise that something is wrong a dj is there to entertain people who come to dance and not to stand still half the night