minimal cool at the moment? ..or is slagging minimal cooler?

**Fordy** · 02-02-2006, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

For me, the point is that, there are producers who have always stepped in various genres, and just get on with it.
So for them, doing minimal is nothing out of the ordinary, as they do a variety of stuff anyway.

But the amount of producers, who would have nothing but the sound they were focusing on, without an incline to diversity, are suddenly "oh yeah, minimal is the thing man"
That`s when for me, it`s just not genuine. I`ve never dug fashion victims.

As my mum always says about trends.
"If they told you to stick your head in the oven, would you do it?"

Well, there are certainly a few people now, with their head planted firmly in the mnml oven, the heat is up to 10, and they still don`t get it.

As for the music spreading techno to non techno people, this is of course a good thing, but really, i feel it`s more for the housey-ness, than the techno-ness.

Cool stuff out there either way.

I fully agree with you there, yes alot of idiots jump on the bandwagon because they are told by mixmag or whatever, fake, ungenuine motives are something I personally cant stand. But in that sense, 15 people jumping on the bandwagon, 9 getting off at the next stop, the remaining then being introduced to sounds they never new existed before and becoming a convert is a good thing for fresh underground music imo. Aslong as the genuine stick by what they want, what we all love and crave will exist and grow, bandwagoners will come and go.

Minimal is still an underground fad really, no matter what it will never appeal to a really massive audience. Underground fads become interesting to many, then stay interesting to a few. They dont blow up and become some void form of music that has this mindless following (hardcore, trance, hard house) they just run out of ideas and become abit stale, if you know what I mean, I may be wrong but thats how I see it.

But without popularity, nothing would get noticed.

**Mindful** · 02-02-2006, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Techno became one sounded for ages.
You`d go to a techno night and here the same stuff all night.

Techno shouldn`t be about mnml or hard tech, or triabl or whatever.
It should be all and everything.
.

Big fat word to big bird

**Fordy** · 02-02-2006, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Fordy

They dont blow up and become some void form of music that has this mindless following (hardcore, trance, hard house) they just run out of ideas and become abit stale, if you know what I mean, I may be wrong but thats how I see it.

Thats actually abit of a hypocritical statement by me to be honest, disregarding what others like, its exactly the same. Ah well :D

oldbugger · 02-02-2006, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Fordy

They dont blow up and become some void form of music that has this mindless following (hardcore, trance, hard house) they just run out of ideas and become abit stale, if you know what I mean, I may be wrong but thats how I see it.

Thats actually abit of a hypocritical statement by me to be honest, disregarding what others like, its exactly the same. Ah well :D

its valid in my book ;) just not best to say it really :lol:

**dan the acid man** · 02-02-2006, 09:22 PM

band wagon jumpers...........not as big as they used to be are they..................erm, hang on, thats wagon wheels isn't it

**massplanck** · 02-02-2006, 09:36 PM

life is good.

**Sunil** · 02-02-2006, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

Techno is a genre that covers so much ground, to focus on one tiny sub sub genre, fashion or not, is just another form of inbreeding that contributes nothing to evolution.

True, although on the other hand you could argue that some sub genres have more mileage in them than others and I think a lot of people are genuinely excited by minimal techno right now, to them it's not one tiny sub genre. I'm sure the inbreeding thing will become more apparant as time goes on, but for now it is a sound in its prime, and providing a reasonable amount of variation for hardcore fans. That said, I think there's a lot of punters who are buying every Minus 12" without *really* liking each one. And I do find it amusing the amount of people who make up their minds based on trends, it's kinda sad really... or people like to section themselves off with a genre, it's like there the other day this Belgian geezer in the shop who was looking for a few old records asks me what I'm into.. "So what are you into? You're into minimal? Or are you more into tech house? Y'know Fabric style stuff"... and I'm like "er, I like techno" :)

On a side note, I think the Sleeparchive stuff is excellent. I'd heard a few people going on about him and took my time about checking him out, but I must say.. it's great. Time will tell whether or not he progresses much with this sound, but for now it's good to have a label that is putting out consistently strong and relatively fresh records.

**dirty_bass** · 02-02-2006, 10:55 PM

[quote="Sunil"]

Originally Posted by dirty_bass

"So what are you into? You're into minimal? Or are you more into tech house? Y'know Fabric style stuff"... and I'm like "er, I like techno" :)

that`s it!!!
exactly!!!

I love minimal.
But hearing a whole night if clicks and pops is just silly.
I`d rather hear a DJ who can start on the clicka pop, go through the darkness, bosh it into some loopaloop, and then finish up on the hard big stuff.
Or somthing.
What`s with all this one track mindedness.
It`s just not healthy.

g · 02-02-2006, 11:32 PM

architecture.

**The Divide** · 03-02-2006, 12:21 AM

zzzz

**S/E** · 03-02-2006, 02:09 AM

I like all techno - from minimal to bangin and even a bit of schranz.

Part of the reason that the slagging of minimal goes on is because some people in the minimal scene are perceived as being elitist and snobby. Hence, the slaggers go crazy and trash them.

**Jay Pace** · 03-02-2006, 12:40 PM

I hate everything and everyone because I'm the coolest.

Everything is bad.

**TechMouse** · 03-02-2006, 12:56 PM

I was about to jump on the slagging people for "slagging people who jump on bandwagons" bandwagon, but my brain exploded.

**MITA** · 03-02-2006, 01:56 PM

me like mnml. as i alwayz did. this new production glitchy clicky mnml is accepted,but in reasonable amounts and shapes.

**SlavikSvensk** · 03-02-2006, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

I hate everything and everyone because I'm the coolest.

Everything is bad.

i feel the same way. the only cool stuff is what no one's listening to.

**audioinjection** · 03-02-2006, 08:36 PM

lol

**eyeswithoutaface** · 03-02-2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by TechMouse

I was about to jump on the slagging people for "slagging people who jump on bandwagons" bandwagon, but my brain exploded.

hahaha hilarious :lol:

**gunjack** · 03-02-2006, 08:39 PM

i still dont understand what click house has to do with techno....

**gunjack** · 03-02-2006, 08:40 PM

i still dont understand what click house has to do with techno....

**eyeswithoutaface** · 03-02-2006, 08:42 PM

you've just answered your question... it doesnt... its house music

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