What's your daw/host and why?

**mattboyslim** · 28-02-2006, 12:35 AM

running a powerbook g4 with Logic 6 Pro and Live 4

i've been with logic for ages and it was the first program to jump out at me and make my work flow quicker. feels really intuitive and is stable as

i'm relatively new to live, but again working with it is so quick and flows nicely.

**TechMouse** · 28-02-2006, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Basil Rush

Pah, where do I get a tracker for a Mac? !

Free:
http://rigelseven.com/schism/
http://www.reduz.com.ar/cheesetronic/index.php

Pay:
http://www.renoise.com/

**danielmarshall** · 02-03-2006, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

Except record sysex data?

If that's important to you, why not just use Midi-OX?

Personally I'm one of the FL Studio horde. I dislike being lumped with that crowd though... it's got a stigma that just won't be shaken no matter how good the program becomes (that new mixer is unreal!). Actually, that's a good idea for a new thread :) There's still many things I dislike about it, but there are some things which are cruicial to my production style and just won't work on any other platform that I am aware of.

What REALLY frustrates me is the fact that so many people in the open source community are pouring rediculous amounts of effort into creating billions of quality freeware trackers like Psycle and Buzz, but not one traditional sequencer. So many great ideas in these projects, but who could be fukked trying to program music using what looks like ASM.

**loopdon** · 02-03-2006, 10:07 AM

daniel, have a look at

http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/

if you don't know that yet. free and looks cubasy, imho

**Jay Pace** · 02-03-2006, 10:12 AM

hehehe octaMED, now that was revolutionary. 4 tracks at decent quality, or 8 at really weird shite quality.
Loved that program dearly. All those columns whizzing downwards... such fun...

I use Cubase SX2 with Reason 3 on a custom built PC for production.

I've got an ibook to run final scratch, and I'm still getting to grips with ableton for djing and live stuff.

**danielmarshall** · 02-03-2006, 10:23 AM

Thanks for the link oh loopy one... looks interesting - though a little limited. Pity it's not true opensource cause I'm looking for another project to contribute to.

**danielmarshall** · 02-03-2006, 10:36 AM

OK, played with it for 5 minutes and have exhausted the feature set. I have to say that my prior assumption was wrong. This thing isn't limited at all.. You need some at least some features for something to be limited as opposed to completely useless. I've seen better pieces of crap on serial boxes. 1/10.

Pro Tools Free is a FAR better option.

**loopdon** · 02-03-2006, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by danielmarshall

OK, played with it for 5 minutes and have exhausted the feature set. I have to say that my prior assumption was wrong. This thing isn't limited at all.. You need some at least some features for something to be limited as opposed to completely useless. I've seen better pieces of crap on serial boxes. 1/10.

Pro Tools Free is a FAR better option.

Never tried it myself, tbh. Just came to my mind. And it looks pretty.
:lol:

Protools LE is worth a look, i guess.

**TechMouse** · 02-03-2006, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by danielmarshall

What REALLY frustrates me is the fact that so many people in the open source community are pouring rediculous amounts of effort into creating billions of quality freeware trackers like Psycle and Buzz, but not one traditional sequencer. So many great ideas in these projects, but who could be fukked trying to program music using what looks like ASM.

http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
http://ardour.org/

... and lots of people use Buzz.

Splitloop are a good example, if you like Breaks at all.

**TechMouse** · 02-03-2006, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by loopdon

daniel, have a look at

http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/

if you don't know that yet. free and looks cubasy, imho

That looks pretty cool - especially if you just want to record hardware etc.

**TechMouse** · 02-03-2006, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

hehehe octaMED, now that was revolutionary. 4 tracks at decent quality, or 8 at really weird shite quality.
Loved that program dearly. All those columns whizzing downwards... such fun...

I ended up buying the PC Version.

Unlimited tracks at CD quality. ;)

http://www.octamed.co.uk/

**Jay Pace** · 02-03-2006, 11:16 AM

I think it using it again would probably make me cry.

Part of me died the day I sold my amiga.

**TechMouse** · 02-03-2006, 11:18 AM

http://www.eyetech.co.uk/search.php?...SearchCat=AMA1

:eyes:

**Jay Pace** · 02-03-2006, 11:23 AM

A1X4-SYS-CFG2 AmigaOne-XE 7451@800MHz G4 power system 1191.45 1399.95

What? What? What?

What the hell is going on?

WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE 1200!

**danielmarshall** · 02-03-2006, 01:11 PM

Like I said though, Pro Tools Free (different to LE I think) kinda makes this point moot.

**loopdon** · 02-03-2006, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by TechMouse

Originally Posted by loopdon

daniel, have a look at

http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/

if you don't know that yet. free and looks cubasy, imho

That looks pretty cool - especially if you just want to record hardware etc.

i think i would be rather happy to have sth. like that which DOES not have to many features. just in order to arrange tracks exported from fruity studio. but that's just me, perhaps. and i mean - it's free - so ;)

**TechMouse** · 02-03-2006, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by danielmarshall

Like I said though, Pro Tools Free (different to LE I think) kinda makes this point moot.

I heard Pro Tools free was poor, since Pro Tools relies heavily on the hardware for functionality?

Also, I've heard many people say the MIDI implementation in Pro Tools compares (unfavourably) with that of the average household toaster.

I've never used it so I couldn't possibly comment.

**Jay Pace** · 02-03-2006, 08:18 PM

9 out 10 badgers disagree...

**Barely Human** · 02-03-2006, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by TechMouse

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

hehehe octaMED, now that was revolutionary. 4 tracks at decent quality, or 8 at really weird shite quality.
Loved that program dearly. All those columns whizzing downwards... such fun...

I ended up buying the PC Version.

Unlimited tracks at CD quality. ;)

http://www.octamed.co.uk/

Try renoise. Uses fast tracker 2 commands but has full vst suport and all sorts of shit. www.renoise.com

**danielmarshall** · 03-03-2006, 12:03 PM

Yes, Pro Tools (any flavour) doesn't have the best MIDI functionality, but for audio arranging it's great. Only real downside to PT Free is that you only get 8 tracks of audio to play with. I reckon more companies should take this path instead of creating demos. If people can't save/ export they will just pirate it to test it out, and then provided they decide on using the software more often, will most often then not really feel like buying it since they won't be getting anything extra for their cash except maybe tech support and new updates.

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