Tadox - "Pump It Up" - Cluster #77...

[Aratron]

im not that fussed by this at all. rhythmtech is right a1 is far too much.
the b-sides are pretty average. hardly the Cluster of yesteryear.
I like Cluster cos i think it is a pretty experimental label anyway, but i've got tons of better examples of this music on German labels.

[fresh_an_funky_design]

liking the b2 on this

[MARK NEENAN]

I really like the k d smith cluster (even though i still havn't got it!) Will have to wait and see what this tadox is like. Some natus stuff is brilliant but then again he has made some poo. We will see!

[Si the Sigh]

I've got tons of better examples of this music on German labels.

That sums it up for me. ^

[TechnoWhore]

This is such a pertinent topic...having just returned to the UK from Germany after 2 years, some things are glaringly obvious and this includes what my mates in the UK say(producers, DJs, scene bods etc etc):

• The uk techno RECORDS market is dying primarily because people don't buy as much anymore.

• The London techno scene just degraded itself into a crack party for students.

• As with every 'going concern', no one (London techno people) tought that the bottom would fall out and just sat back and actually did not play acid techno (with the exception of Chris and a few others).

• Record shops just do not want to stock up on the London techno stuff and acid in particular - because there really isn't that vibe that was created through the squat parties...and I don't just mean Lee Techtonic and Insanity either

• The German / European / Hard scene just happened to be quite teutonic and lucky...that they have got a lot of younger punters around, quite mobile and able to go to parties outside of the borders - we need to use some poxy Eurostar / Easyjet to get out of our little island

• The fact that a lot of labels might be considering a new style is because this style indeed has some energy in it that (in my opinion) the commercial and non-commercial hard house scene just sucked away - Kinetec before the new incarnation was a culprit - I don't think Mark cared much about supporting one scene

• UK Distributors are more keen to import and sell here than source talent here and distribute outside

• Eventually, it comes down to one thing I suppose...just like every other style that has evolved, say in London, with the Schoom -> Rave -> Hardcore -> Club UK -> blah blah...we will always be influenced by others outside and evolve...otherwise Stay Up Forever will be releasing with Choci's Choons. Also, even classic acid labels like routemaster have gone through their own journeys...

• Coming after a while to the UK / London scene, it seems like people are more interested in shoving loads of powder in small 'intimate' posey vocal house parties - middle class schtik!

• Look at all our Label owner DJs...they all play outside, different 'firms' colonise certain parts of the world and sell their own records...gone are the days when we sold our style, city and country in general

• See what 9 years of comfortable New Labour life has done for us all...I say bring back the tories - watch the squat parties spark up the rebellious London / UK scene that made us world famous...it ain't them mate...it's us...we are the procrastinators

• Note to self: must go and book flights to all the wicked Teknival parties that will be happening Euro wide while our councils sell off Hackney Marshes etc to property developers so we can all buy houses and have house parties and play that once-famous style of music called Acid Techno to our friends and reminisce

[twieq]

I've got tons of better examples of this music on German labels.

That sums it up for me. ^

agreed.
No problems with cluster releasing their tracks, but those artists and others from the genre have more then enough outlets for their music.

[Si the Sigh]

TechnoWhore, I would like to take your post and make a new topic if thats ok?

[TechnoWhore]

Be my guest Si. Although I thinkyou'll be barraged with some serious angry opinionated people