Welcome to the Blackout Audio Techno Forums :: Underground Network.
Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 41 to 60 of 67
  1. #41
    Junior Freak
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Brisbane, Australia
    Posts
    374

    Default

    You're so right. Boosting bass before you compress leads to a paddocks' worth of mud.

    Something I've realised lately is that side chaining the bass with a longish decay on the kick is often a good way to reduce the ammount of overall compression you'll have to apply to your mix to get it to sound full and loud.

    So much of this stuff is common sence, but all too often I forget to apply these basic principles...

  2. #42
    BOA Newbie
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    NOVI SAD
    Posts
    43

    Default

    well you can't really separate compression from eq..it's kind of a symbiosis thing...many good advices here about compression..i would just add a little advice about EQ-ing: try getting your sound by cutting frequencies not by boosting..i get the best results that way
    :newstyle:
    [ Z ]

  3. #43
    BOA Newbie
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Aus
    Posts
    49

    Default

    yeah I have read alot on subtractive eq. So I do understand the theory behind that, but I am having trouble putting it into practice. It's all fine if I hear something in the mix that I don 't like I can isolate that and take it away. But when it comes to eqing my highs I have alot of trouble knowing what to remove.

    can anyone give me some advice on this? I'm looking for hands on advice as I do understand some of theory but I need to know how to put into practice.

  4. #44
    Junior Freak
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Brisbane, Australia
    Posts
    374

    Default

    Subtractive EQing is useful when you're using low quality EQs which introduce less artifacting to the signal as compared to boosting. Cheap filters create combing when you boost em basically.

    It works by cutting the inverse of the frequencies you want to boost, then pushing the gain back up again. So say for example you wish to boost the bass a bit, you'd put a rather dry low pass filter on the signal to deminish the high end a tad. The result will be a signal that has more bass in it than mid and trebble.

    Perosnally I don't find this technique to really be of much use, because I usually end up ruining my sound in one area whilst trying to correct it in another. IMO Just use boost when you need to and drop the overall gain. Make sure you're using a decent EQ though... There are plenty of options (some free). If you can't tell the difference, then who cares!

  5. #45
    BOA Newbie
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    48

    Default

    all I can is wow...here I am, an isolated technohead from Toronto, with my brandspanking new copy of Reason and my X-station in hand, ready to make my first track...and I find myself in here with my techno brothers basking in their collective wealth of knowledge in regards to production...i'm a lucky guy

  6. #46
    Administrator
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Leeds, UK
    Posts
    6,637

    Default

    :)

  7. #47
    Supreme Freak
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    dat der derby
    Posts
    967

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by danielmarshall
    You're so right. Boosting bass before you compress leads to a paddocks' worth of mud.

    Something I've realised lately is that side chaining the bass with a longish decay on the kick is often a good way to reduce the ammount of overall compression you'll have to apply to your mix to get it to sound full and loud.

    So much of this stuff is common sence, but all too often I forget to apply these basic principles...
    interestin bit of advice about side-chaining, been really getting into it recently, great with the software but only 1of my hardware compressors has a side chain input which is really annoying

  8. #48
    BOA Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    2,687

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister_Minister
    all I can is wow...here I am, an isolated technohead from Toronto, with my brandspanking new copy of Reason and my X-station in hand, ready to make my first track...and I find myself in here with my techno brothers basking in their collective wealth of knowledge in regards to production...i'm a lucky guy
    haha I know how you feel mate.
    when i first hit this place I had one freind who was in to making music(well techno and electronica music)
    So when I found this place I was so happy(looking thru old topics in this forum was more of an addiction than actualy making music for me)

    The best advice I can give is to post the results of your music making in the production files and take every comment on your music on board, be it positive and negetive and use it as you see fit.

    Also do your own thing :)

    welcome to the board.

  9. #49
    BOA Newbie
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Toronto
    Posts
    48

    Default

    quote" haha I know how you feel mate.
    when i first hit this place I had one freind who was in to making music(well techno and electronica music)
    So when I found this place I was so happy(looking thru old topics in this forum was more of an addiction than actualy making music for me)

    The best advice I can give is to post the results of your music making in the production files and take every comment on your music on board, be it positive and negetive and use it as you see fit.

    Also do your own thing :)

    welcome to the board.[/quote]

    Appreciate it mindful...everybody on here has experience on me so I'd be fool not to listen and sift thru what I can use huh? Guess I'm in a good spot as newb...can only get better :)

  10. #50
    BOA Lifetime Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Posts
    10,306

    Default

    This is probably the friendliest and most informative place on the internet.

    Use it wisely. Welcome to the board!

  11. #51
    Junior Freak
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    297

    Default

    :clap:


    i have to really go back and save all of this..lol..well done guys..

  12. #52
    Administrator
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Leeds, UK
    Posts
    6,637

    Default

    i love this place :)

  13. #53
    Junior Freak
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Portugal
    Posts
    480

    Default

    me too! :)


    i dont have friends in producion or djing

    when i found this place is like i found god :)


    thanks all amigos.

  14. #54
    Junior Freak
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Brisbane, Australia
    Posts
    374

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by fresh_an_funky_design
    Quote Originally Posted by danielmarshall
    My main quam with outboard anything is that I can't have a project file to save the settings. Like the idea (and sound) of allot of gear, but sometimes it's hard to replicate that sound you had a couple of days ago even with all the knob numbers written down. Not only that, but I feel that I loose my ideas very quickly (don't do drugs kids), so if I can't have things up and running in minutes I'm lost. That, and with digital technology being at the point is is, and only getting better I'll take the hit in sound quality for the usabilty/ flexibility tradeoff anyday. Mind you, some valve compressors/ distortion units still make me wet...
    i find i'm much more creative with my outboard than with software.

    If i apply software compression i usually go for standard compression settings, wheras with outboard i really mess around doing slightly crazy settings and often get really good results.

    I've started really battering my compressors recently, getting the overload lights glowing, get such a lovely distortion. not that heavy like the distortion you get from a lot of plug-ins, just a really nice warm sound
    Yup, I agree, some valve equipment just can't be replaced... My guitar amp doesn't use transistors for a good reason. But I usually write tracks over the period of a few weeks, sometimes months rather than just one afternoon. I also like to jump around between projects so that I don't get bored to often and keep my motivation levels up. You can't really do this effectively if your gear is always in a state of flux, and so you really do need some way of keeping things consistant. I guess it's just dependant on how you write tunes and wether or not you're keen on revisiting them later.

  15. #55
    Junior Freak
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Brisbane, Australia
    Posts
    374

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvio Neto
    me too! :)


    i dont have friends in producion or djing

    when i found this place is like i found god :)


    thanks all amigos.
    Well I have a tonne of freinds DJing and a few producing, but nobody in my area seems to like techno much :(, so I suppose I'm in your book too mate... I feel like since I joined here I've really had my standards stretched, not to mention getting some ace technical advice. Group hug :P

  16. #56
    Junior Freak
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Minneapolis / St. Paul
    Posts
    167

    Default

    Even my gear is happy in the studio these days.
    Check it Click it

    This thing is ridiculous. All of my hardware jumped off the shelves and popped out of their racks to line up to get hooked up to this multitrack, multitasking sequencing party machine.

    www.genoqs.net

  17. #57
    Supreme Freak
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    dat der derby
    Posts
    967

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by danielmarshall
    Quote Originally Posted by fresh_an_funky_design
    Quote Originally Posted by danielmarshall
    My main quam with outboard anything is that I can't have a project file to save the settings. Like the idea (and sound) of allot of gear, but sometimes it's hard to replicate that sound you had a couple of days ago even with all the knob numbers written down. Not only that, but I feel that I loose my ideas very quickly (don't do drugs kids), so if I can't have things up and running in minutes I'm lost. That, and with digital technology being at the point is is, and only getting better I'll take the hit in sound quality for the usabilty/ flexibility tradeoff anyday. Mind you, some valve compressors/ distortion units still make me wet...
    i find i'm much more creative with my outboard than with software.

    If i apply software compression i usually go for standard compression settings, wheras with outboard i really mess around doing slightly crazy settings and often get really good results.

    I've started really battering my compressors recently, getting the overload lights glowing, get such a lovely distortion. not that heavy like the distortion you get from a lot of plug-ins, just a really nice warm sound
    Yup, I agree, some valve equipment just can't be replaced... My guitar amp doesn't use transistors for a good reason. But I usually write tracks over the period of a few weeks, sometimes months rather than just one afternoon. I also like to jump around between projects so that I don't get bored to often and keep my motivation levels up. You can't really do this effectively if your gear is always in a state of flux, and so you really do need some way of keeping things consistant. I guess it's just dependant on how you write tunes and wether or not you're keen on revisiting them later.

    when i make a tune i start it and the completely finish it before starting anything else, wrecks my head trying mixer, compression & effects settings back after altering them for another tune.

  18. #58
    Administrator
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    Leeds, UK
    Posts
    6,637

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by thetonewrecka
    This thing is ridiculous. All of my hardware jumped off the shelves and popped out of their racks to line up to get hooked up to this multitrack, multitasking sequencing party machine.

    www.genoqs.net
    for gods sake paul.

    has anyone got a spare 1999 euros they can donate to me???

    :)

  19. #59
    Junior Freak
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    225

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by thetonewrecka
    Even my gear is happy in the studio these days.
    Check it Click it

    This thing is ridiculous. All of my hardware jumped off the shelves and popped out of their racks to line up to get hooked up to this multitrack, multitasking sequencing party machine.

    www.genoqs.net
    mine just arrived too. very. happy.

    machina
    The Lines - Melbourne, Australia

  20. #60
    Junior Freak
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Tokyo, Japan
    Posts
    107

    Default

    So, I read about some of you guys EQing before compressing...

    Erm, how does that work then?

    Compression is dynamic range controller... EQ in my mind is the final shaper of the sound; kind of like a rope or boundary to keep all the bad sounds out... surely distorting after this process will make the boudaries fuzzy and not what you originally set them to be?

    If I am missing something here, please fill me in... :)

 

 
Page 3 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Back to top