change in partie attitudes?

[Sunil]

More people doing Es in clubs would be better, as much as it maybe shouldn't be that way, the more yokes there are the better the night usually turns out to be.

[oldbugger]

more E/ MDMA in the club/party scene is needed IMO ;)

[Francisco Scaramanga]

Sometimes I think that not as many people are doing drugs, but then I think maybe its just that the people I know are older now, and have a bit more training so dont get so destroyed. When I first started going to raves I just got trashed and never bothered to think or care if everyone else was in a similar state, I just assumed everyone was as trashed as me. Now I like to be able to walk out of the club, but still am always amused by the crawling wounded in the first light of the morning.

And the other thing, is when I got into this stuff originally, it was pills, pills, pills, pills, all the way pills! But now they are shit and no one wants them, and coke seems to be the drug of choice amongst alot of party goers these days. So maybe people are still taking drugs, but they dont get as wrecked cause the drugs are slightly less cosmic.

I've never seen anything to match the release of the loons from the Que Club. 6:00 sunday morning, the gurning masses leaving a church as normal people get ready for it. If only there was a 24 hour shopping mall next door, it would have been like Dawn of the Dead.

[eyeswithoutaface]

i think maybe everyone is just lumping everyone else in with each other too much, there's no written rule that a bunch of techno heads just out on the ale are going to end up beating everyone up. Ive had some of my best nights just pissed up, and ive had some of my worst nights off my face on e's and coke, depends on the club, the rest of the people in the club etc etc

too many assumptions going on here, we can talk about this 24/7 behind a screen but doesnt make it true

[rhythmtech]

very true eyes. i try to keep from "indulging" except on very big nights.. so i'm usually to be found on the drink. same with my mates but none of us go around beating anyone up... infact you couldnt meet a nicer bunch of fukers.

[eyeswithoutaface]

exactly

doesnt matter what your on, if someone is out to cause trouble, they'l cause it regardless

really dont agree with tarring everyone with the same brush, everyone's individual, there's trouble absolutely everywhere if you go looking

[dan the acid man]

the only thing that happens if i drink too much is i get tired and want to sleep everywhere, which isn't good for dancing around :lol:

[Barely Human]

Its not so much a less use of drugs i think, its more of a change of drug preferance.

More people than ever are taking coke now, and this goes hand in hand with alchohol. There is also an increase of ketamine use over the last couple of years.

I find parties a lot less freindly recently. Seams to be a nastier edge and i dont like it. However, i do like the fact that i dont have some messed up pill head thinking im thier best friend every 5 mins, so its not all bad.

[Jay Pace]

Thing is, a lot of people just go out for a party. They're not always that bothered about the music. Techno parties have always been brilliant - great crowds, atmosphere and energy. I think if you took away the drugs all three of those things would change.

I've been told umpteen times by female friends that they couldn't give a **** about the lineup or a djs credentials so long as the party is rocking. Tends to be the blokes who get more excited by the lineup. Happy to be shot down on this, but c'mon - women on this board are seriously under represented. Notable exceptions of course (you know who you may be ;))
Last split night I went to was ace, but there was probably a 5:1 ratio men to women. This does not bode well.

Parties need to be fun first and musically interesting second.
I don't think interesting music alone is enough to make a party.
Not everyone is passionate about techno (the fools...the fools...)

[fresh_an_funky_design]

Last split night I went to was ace, but there was probably a 5:1 ratio men to women. This does not bode well.

yeah definetly need more ladies at parties. most of them just arnt into hard sweaty clubs though.

i think techno is harder to get into without going down the drug route first as well, most people just don't understand it

[fresh_an_funky_design]

However, i do like the fact that i dont have some messed up pill head thinking im thier best friend every 5 mins, so its not all bad.

or trying to tell you there life story while your mixing

[rhythmtech]

However, i do like the fact that i dont have some messed up pill head thinking im thier best friend every 5 mins, so its not all bad.

or trying to tell you there life story while your mixing

yeah... but we've all done it :cheese: :cheese:

[dirty_bass]

Just play lots of beltram disco techno. The girls love it

[The Overfiend]

Or so Alan says, but then again we wouldn't know that. Because we all love sausage parties and aggresive music.

[jax]

Last split night I went to was ace, but there was probably a 5:1 ratio men to women. This does not bode well.

yeah definetly need more ladies at parties. most of them just arnt into hard sweaty clubs though.

i think techno is harder to get into without going down the drug route first as well, most people just don't understand it

only the fiestiest of ladies will stomp to techno :devilish: it's hard to find ladies that like to get muddy and f*** out of their brains.

[Technobitch]

Thing is, a lot of people just go out for a party. They're not always that bothered about the music. Techno parties have always been brilliant - great crowds, atmosphere and energy. I think if you took away the drugs all three of those things would change.

I've been told umpteen times by female friends that they couldn't give a **** about the lineup or a djs credentials so long as the party is rocking. Tends to be the blokes who get more excited by the lineup. Happy to be shot down on this, but c'mon - women on this board are seriously under represented. Notable exceptions of course (you know who you may be ;))
Last split night I went to was ace, but there was probably a 5:1 ratio men to women. This does not bode well.

Parties need to be fun first and musically interesting second.
I don't think interesting music alone is enough to make a party.
Not everyone is passionate about techno (the fools...the fools...)

hmmmmmmm god i was in dark and digital in liverpool the other weekend and i would say there was more girls than lads, although you are prob right and im sure most didnt know who they were dancing too! i love my techno and to go to a club night it has to be bout the line up, but i suppose im one of those techno girls in the minority :)

[Technobitch]

Last split night I went to was ace, but there was probably a 5:1 ratio men to women. This does not bode well.

yeah definetly need more ladies at parties. most of them just arnt into hard sweaty clubs though.

i think techno is harder to get into without going down the drug route first as well, most people just don't understand it

only the fiestiest of ladies will stomp to techno :devilish: it's hard to find ladies that like to get muddy and f*** out of their brains.

that why we aint ladies jax ha ha ha

[tocsin]

i think it's great, cause drugs arent such a part of my life anymore.

but i do think alcohol means less ppl into this music.

what do the rest of you think?

I'm all for it for a number of reasons. One, the styles of music I like cater fine to a drinking crowd. The assholes that have caused problems at the shows cause problems no matter what. Alcohol, coke, speed, whatever, it doesn't make a difference for those tools as there is a dick waving thing going on. I've never seen any fights that I'd even qualify as real at the parties I attend.

Two, for myself at least, some of the music I write is specifically intended for a drinking crowd. Loud, fairly fast, and borderline obnoxious at times. I just find it fun when it's cranked and I'm just a bit dizzy.

Three, I'm just really sick of the baggage that comes along with the drug scene. Particularly since I don't really do them. Tired of dealing with the arrests of people I know, posting bail, seeing people overdose, etc. And, as we all get older, it just seems to happen with more frequency if your around it. When you're a kid, your body recovers, your parents may be unknowingly supporting 90% of your habit and, if you get caught by the cops for possession, it's generally a slap on the wrist. Once you aren't a kid anymore, people overdose, people go broke acting like idiots, and the cops throw the entire ****ing book at you. I don't care that other people make the choice to do that shit themselves. But, when it's so entrenched in something you love, it gets really ****ing tedious.

When the party is at a pub, the shit just isn't in my face as the owners wouldn't tolerate it and I very much appreciate that nowadays.

[TheRev]

I think its good that folk are being more responsible and helps techno move away from the negative association it has with being whacked out of your mind on drugs.

That said, there is something missing from the parties in the vibe without folk letting their barriers down the way only psychadelics can. It's totally possible to get a contact high off E when enough people are buzzing on it and running around being super friendly.

Its just unfortunate that people don't know how to do those things reponsibly or in moderation and end up down the roads that Lowkey described all too often.

But whoever said the party has to be fun first hit the nail on the head.

[audioinjection]

i drink at parties.....not because i have to be drunk to enjoy the music...its because i love beer, and adding 2 things i love in one night kicks ass

techno+beer=fun