Quote Originally Posted by module
i cant help think if everyone had of seen this coming they would have banded together & done something.

where as it happens to ppl one by one & they get pissed off as & when it happens to them.



point in case. i know a guy d'loaded Closer by Hawtin a month before it came out. he jus laughed & pretty much said '**** richie' but now its happened to one of his IDM heros he's gona ll anti-d'load. now, the same guy also cut part of a BMB live set to bits & played trax at a payed gig. when i pulled him about that, he jus laughed & said '**** regis & surgeon' but was still miffed about whatever IDM artist it was..

it seems ppl only having a passing interest UNTIL IT HAPPENS TO THEM.

which i understand, but c'mon.. this has been on the cards for sooo long.

ya either got to cut your promo list to only those you REALLY trust or jus accept its gonna happen. as handy as MP3 are, and as wide as Ableton & Traktor & cdj's are used, i dont think its gonna kill the sales of an established artist like Drummer.
vinyl sales are just going down anyway.
i accept that.
illegal downloads are helping the process
soon it will just not be worth spending the time and energy you need
to make music commercially in any way.
is that a good thing?

less musicians in the world = less music


this is still a healthy debate becausei have already learned so much from your opinions

is there an answer ?

selling mp3s from your own site and not distributing anything at all.
no cds ( except by mail order )

no vinyl ( it's not worth it)
exclusivity completely, and when someon buys something
you get al the money.
( which is a lot less than you would earn from vinyl)
and then someone uploads it to soulseek

ok i know that is going to happen.
but now that cd is becoming a more popular alternative to vinyl
its not so unrealistice to just use cd in clubs.
and thats where the change is.

i think the way forward is

no distribution
no record shops
artists empower themselves and sell their own material on the net through their own websites.

pay pal / text message / credit card this is the kind of payment system we need to get round the credit card problem.

everyone these days has a mobile phone
use the account to pay for your tunes just like you would a ringtone.

maybe we are stupid to even bother discussing this
i mean who the hell are we anyway????

but i think it helps